F10 Questions
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BBee
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Re: F10 Questions
Perhaps I conveyed the wrong msg that one must drive hi speed to clear carbon. There's markedly less stop/move compared to driving here (so frustrating) and also the chance to enjoy with confidence; the handling and feel of the car, playing with the auto manual gears esp on B rds and the MY Highlands which currently is my new fave.
davidtch;949178 said:
Perhaps I conveyed the wrong msg that one must drive hi speed to clear carbon. There's markedly less stop/move compared to driving here (so frustrating) and also the chance to enjoy with confidence; the handling and feel of the car, playing with the auto manual gears esp on B rds and the MY Highlands which currently is my new fave.
clamsgp
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F10 Questions
Perpetual problematic choice! Test drove both F10 520 and 528. More torquey for overtaking and faster in straight line sprint but no matter what, 4 pot can never compare to a 6 pot. For the same distance 4 pot has to work harder and hence "age" faster. The tiak tiak will be louder and louder over time that for all the insulation, you will start to hear it. In the end settled on a used F10 523. Sometimes I missed my Golf GTi turbo when doing quick overtaking but overall glad with the relaxed, quieter, smoother ride after a hard day's work.
Perpetual problematic choice! Test drove both F10 520 and 528. More torquey for overtaking and faster in straight line sprint but no matter what, 4 pot can never compare to a 6 pot. For the same distance 4 pot has to work harder and hence "age" faster. The tiak tiak will be louder and louder over time that for all the insulation, you will start to hear it. In the end settled on a used F10 523. Sometimes I missed my Golf GTi turbo when doing quick overtaking but overall glad with the relaxed, quieter, smoother ride after a hard day's work.
Re: F10 Questions
Driving (for the sake of driving) can be relaxing on this island once it is time correctly. I used to drive 2hrs around most of the expressway with window down.BBee;949184 said:Perhaps I conveyed the wrong msg that one must drive hi speed to clear carbon. There's markedly less stop/move compared to driving here (so frustrating) and also the chance to enjoy with confidence; the handling and feel of the car, playing with the auto manual gears esp on B rds and the MY Highlands which currently is my new fave.
That's the beauty of NA. The momentum of the engine need to be kept before the surge. It is like a good foreplay.clamsgp;949191 said:
wobbles
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Re: F10 Questions
This is not an exact comparison, since the article I wrote (originally for bro Golilok) compares a NA N52B30 vs a TT N55B30, but since we're talking about NA vs Turbo (albeit a 4-potter in the guise of the new F10 520i & 528i respectively), I thought I'd reproduce it here for the original thread-starter's perusal:
F02 730Li N52B30
The car starts up with a purr, and keeps purring away the whole time. Hardly ANY vibration is felt from the engine at idle - and even less is felt at speed, so anyone looking for a quick orgasm will be sorely disappointed. What you will get however, is a creamy smooth, almost whisper quiet, delivery of linear acceleration, devoid of any tension or drama whatsoever, whenever the right pedal is depressed.
The "kick" if I may call it, comes when you glance down at the speedometer (sorry, my F02 doesn't have HUD) and recoil in a mix of genuine fright and sinful surprise at the position of the needle - 130km/h is breached easier than a Desker Road street worker's aperture, and license-killing speeds of 150km/h and above are easily recorded without so much as a hair out of place.
The N52B30 may not have the low end torque of its newer turbocharged siblings, but - I've said it before and I'll say it again - what it lacks in low end twist and raw hoof-stamping ponies, it more than makes up for the elegant, classy way that torque (all 300Nm) of it and horsepower (258hp) is delivered: smoothly, sweetly and packed in a strawberry-coloured pink ribbon.
F13 640i N55B30
Now this is a totally different kettle of fish altogether. If the 730Li N52B30 is the gentle flowing of a clear spring brook over a series of cascading pebbles – the 640i in N55B30 guise is the crashing of a thousand tonnes of water per minute over the edge of the Victoria Falls.
It barks to life and settles down to an angry idle. It dispenses with the pretence of courtesy and plants its Twinpower Turbo fan squarely in your face.
This engine pulls like a fcuking freight train in a hurry and a half. Forget about what possible tiak-tiak sounds that may emanate from under the bonnet. You just worry about the rasping sounds of joy that may escape from your gullet as you stamp down on the accelerator and take off like Wiley E Coyote with a Chinese Firecracker shoved up his bottom.
This engine brings the HAMMER to "sledge", the BOMB to "atomic" and the girls to a Sar Lau orgy. Geesus, if ever there was a good reason to lose my licence, please let me lose it with my right foot mashed to the pedal of the F13, barrelling down 40 Tiang like there's no tomorrow.
At full throttle, the shove is visceral, the pure speed is guttural – almost violent, and the urgency in which the tachometer & speedometer needles climb up the scale is phenomenal.
It feels wicked fast. You know you're on your way to 130km/h, then 150km/h, but that's not the scary bit.
The scary bit is, despite knowing it's a multiple-demerit-point adventure, you still want the car to go faster. And it will. It doesn't feel like it's ever gonna run out of steam. You'd sooner run out of road, or out of testicular fortitude.
The N55 is brash, loud and rude. It barks like a Rottweiler and hisses like a Siamese. It's rough on idle, and unabashedly coarse when you floor it. Compared to the aristocratic, refined and cultured pedigree of the N52, the N55 is the nouveau riche clad in bling and speaking at the top of his voice in PuTongHua.
And, demerit points be damned, I can't help myself but love it.
This is not an exact comparison, since the article I wrote (originally for bro Golilok) compares a NA N52B30 vs a TT N55B30, but since we're talking about NA vs Turbo (albeit a 4-potter in the guise of the new F10 520i & 528i respectively), I thought I'd reproduce it here for the original thread-starter's perusal:
F02 730Li N52B30
The car starts up with a purr, and keeps purring away the whole time. Hardly ANY vibration is felt from the engine at idle - and even less is felt at speed, so anyone looking for a quick orgasm will be sorely disappointed. What you will get however, is a creamy smooth, almost whisper quiet, delivery of linear acceleration, devoid of any tension or drama whatsoever, whenever the right pedal is depressed.
The "kick" if I may call it, comes when you glance down at the speedometer (sorry, my F02 doesn't have HUD) and recoil in a mix of genuine fright and sinful surprise at the position of the needle - 130km/h is breached easier than a Desker Road street worker's aperture, and license-killing speeds of 150km/h and above are easily recorded without so much as a hair out of place.
The N52B30 may not have the low end torque of its newer turbocharged siblings, but - I've said it before and I'll say it again - what it lacks in low end twist and raw hoof-stamping ponies, it more than makes up for the elegant, classy way that torque (all 300Nm) of it and horsepower (258hp) is delivered: smoothly, sweetly and packed in a strawberry-coloured pink ribbon.
F13 640i N55B30
Now this is a totally different kettle of fish altogether. If the 730Li N52B30 is the gentle flowing of a clear spring brook over a series of cascading pebbles – the 640i in N55B30 guise is the crashing of a thousand tonnes of water per minute over the edge of the Victoria Falls.
It barks to life and settles down to an angry idle. It dispenses with the pretence of courtesy and plants its Twinpower Turbo fan squarely in your face.
This engine pulls like a fcuking freight train in a hurry and a half. Forget about what possible tiak-tiak sounds that may emanate from under the bonnet. You just worry about the rasping sounds of joy that may escape from your gullet as you stamp down on the accelerator and take off like Wiley E Coyote with a Chinese Firecracker shoved up his bottom.
This engine brings the HAMMER to "sledge", the BOMB to "atomic" and the girls to a Sar Lau orgy. Geesus, if ever there was a good reason to lose my licence, please let me lose it with my right foot mashed to the pedal of the F13, barrelling down 40 Tiang like there's no tomorrow.
At full throttle, the shove is visceral, the pure speed is guttural – almost violent, and the urgency in which the tachometer & speedometer needles climb up the scale is phenomenal.
It feels wicked fast. You know you're on your way to 130km/h, then 150km/h, but that's not the scary bit.
The scary bit is, despite knowing it's a multiple-demerit-point adventure, you still want the car to go faster. And it will. It doesn't feel like it's ever gonna run out of steam. You'd sooner run out of road, or out of testicular fortitude.
The N55 is brash, loud and rude. It barks like a Rottweiler and hisses like a Siamese. It's rough on idle, and unabashedly coarse when you floor it. Compared to the aristocratic, refined and cultured pedigree of the N52, the N55 is the nouveau riche clad in bling and speaking at the top of his voice in PuTongHua.
And, demerit points be damned, I can't help myself but love it.
wobbles
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Re: F10 Questions
Hmmm... good idea, maybe I go test drive @ PML & then write essay for forum. But, I'm sure my Sales Exec will wanna chase me with a cleaver for wasting her time, since I have no intention of getting a 4-potter
detach8;949317 said:you are still comparing two 6cycls... really not equal. you need to put the 4 pots against 4 pots
Hmmm... good idea, maybe I go test drive @ PML & then write essay for forum. But, I'm sure my Sales Exec will wanna chase me with a cleaver for wasting her time, since I have no intention of getting a 4-potter
Black Beauuuty
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Re: F10 Questions
Enjoyed the read. Good descriptive writing flow with vivid sensory details aptly put across. Thumbs up.
Enjoyed the read. Good descriptive writing flow with vivid sensory details aptly put across. Thumbs up.
jasonmaxima
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Re: F10 Questions
Yet another 'Kena chased around by a woman welding a cleaver' story.....
wobbles;949348 said:Hmmm... good idea, maybe I go test drive @ PML & then write essay for forum. But, I'm sure my Sales Exec will wanna chase me with a cleaver for wasting her time, since I have no intention of getting a 4-potter
Yet another 'Kena chased around by a woman welding a cleaver' story.....
z76
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Re: F10 Questions
if those with dynamic drive control, will it still works if coilover changed? I would reckoned no right? Will it affect the overall drivability as understood that the front and rear axles will counteract.
Articles found here: BMW Technology Guide : Dynamic Drive
if those with dynamic drive control, will it still works if coilover changed? I would reckoned no right? Will it affect the overall drivability as understood that the front and rear axles will counteract.
Articles found here: BMW Technology Guide : Dynamic Drive
BBee
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Re: F10 Questions
Well, most drivers have their own preferences; some like soft luxury handling and ride. Also depends on usage, like solely city driving or NSHW only. Having driven diff makes & models >20 yrs on diff terrains, hve come to be discerning as to the car I choose for my present leisure pursuit; long distance & B rds.
Unable to go into technical descriptions to explain 'lacks the feel' as I'm more into instinctive and hands-on when it comes to choice. The F10 is towards more luxury, softer ride as compared to the E60. Try putting both thru extreme maneuvers and that's where u can feel the diff. IMO.
Terras14;951230 said:
Well, most drivers have their own preferences; some like soft luxury handling and ride. Also depends on usage, like solely city driving or NSHW only. Having driven diff makes & models >20 yrs on diff terrains, hve come to be discerning as to the car I choose for my present leisure pursuit; long distance & B rds.
Unable to go into technical descriptions to explain 'lacks the feel' as I'm more into instinctive and hands-on when it comes to choice. The F10 is towards more luxury, softer ride as compared to the E60. Try putting both thru extreme maneuvers and that's where u can feel the diff. IMO.
st8800
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Re: F10 Questions
Strawberry FTW.... long long post one time also must orh lo F10..... :chinese:
Handling can easier be corrected with a KW V2/V3 coilover. F10 523i does have a much better ZF 8 speed gear box that makes a lot of difference in smoothness and even FC.BBee;951292 said:Well, most drivers have their own preferences; some like soft luxury handling and ride. Also depends on usage, like solely city driving or NSHW only. Having driven diff makes & models >20 yrs on diff terrains, hve come to be discerning as to the car I choose for my present leisure pursuit; long distance & B rds.
Unable to go into technical descriptions to explain 'lacks the feel' as I'm more into instinctive and hands-on when it comes to choice. The F10 is towards more luxury, softer ride as compared to the E60. Try putting both thru extreme maneuvers and that's where u can feel the diff. IMO.
Strawberry FTW.... long long post one time also must orh lo F10..... :chinese:
