PML or MA
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Slow_poke_driver
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Re: PML or MA
Yours is small case. My new 520i got the following issues from 1st day:
1. Low pitch squeaking noise from rear brakes
2. Leather arm rest leather slight damage
3. Driver seat leather torn at the rear, about 1.5cm
4. Driver seat paint drop off at seat belt area
5. Bonnet total misalignment, worse than jialat accident car
6. Sibei jerky gearbox
7. Seat belt squeaking like nobody's business
8. Slight steering pull to the left
9. Same wrinkled seats
10. Two scratch on rear boot around model badge area, about 3-4cm, was there on collection day at pml
First bmw and I have never had so much issues with a brand new car. And honestly, the steering feel is FAR from a decent driving machine, not to mention udm.
detach8;847725 said:
Yours is small case. My new 520i got the following issues from 1st day:
1. Low pitch squeaking noise from rear brakes
2. Leather arm rest leather slight damage
3. Driver seat leather torn at the rear, about 1.5cm
4. Driver seat paint drop off at seat belt area
5. Bonnet total misalignment, worse than jialat accident car
6. Sibei jerky gearbox
7. Seat belt squeaking like nobody's business
8. Slight steering pull to the left
9. Same wrinkled seats
10. Two scratch on rear boot around model badge area, about 3-4cm, was there on collection day at pml
First bmw and I have never had so much issues with a brand new car. And honestly, the steering feel is FAR from a decent driving machine, not to mention udm.
Slow_poke_driver
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Re: PML or MA
So if say later I upgrade to f001-12-03-513 means I might not fully be integrated with this new firmware if the integration level is low?
detach8;847768 said:
So if say later I upgrade to f001-12-03-513 means I might not fully be integrated with this new firmware if the integration level is low?
There are quite a few "computers" in the car so using firmware causes a lot of confusion. So instead in bmw's the term used is Integration Level or I-level.
The I-level of the car is determined by the programming version. So from programming version you can also derive I-level. Just think of programming version as a one big package for BMWs.
The I-level stated in the profile does not match the exact I-level in my car.
Example profile shows F001-09-11-500 when actual is F010-09-11-507.
Profile shows F001-03-12-511 when actual is F010-03-12-512
Then how do u know what is actual? Ask sa for it or get someone with esys and enet cable and read from the car.
It will tell you factory, previous and current I-levels.
Me da man... Please thanks me
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The I-level of the car is determined by the programming version. So from programming version you can also derive I-level. Just think of programming version as a one big package for BMWs.
The I-level stated in the profile does not match the exact I-level in my car.
Example profile shows F001-09-11-500 when actual is F010-09-11-507.
Profile shows F001-03-12-511 when actual is F010-03-12-512
Then how do u know what is actual? Ask sa for it or get someone with esys and enet cable and read from the car.
It will tell you factory, previous and current I-levels.
Me da man... Please thanks me
Quality post....
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Re: PML or MA
when lemon law kicks in? i am just waiting for the day when someone free and powderful gets this kind of shit and have some fun with BMW Asia and PML..
having drove a 520i loaner for a week... i agree the steering feel is quite dead... quite different from the 535i.. i also donno why
Slow_poke_driver;847771 said:
when lemon law kicks in? i am just waiting for the day when someone free and powderful gets this kind of shit and have some fun with BMW Asia and PML..
having drove a 520i loaner for a week... i agree the steering feel is quite dead... quite different from the 535i.. i also donno why
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Slow_poke_driver
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Re: PML or MA
Don't think my case is lemon enough for lemon law to work leh...Anyway the biggest issue is that PML and BMW did not even check to ensure something so obvious as misaligned bonnet and torn leather was not spotted when preparing the car for collection.
On the brighter side, at least the doors lock/unlock when I want it to, the engine starts every try and the transmission can go into drive every time.
Don't think my case is lemon enough for lemon law to work leh...Anyway the biggest issue is that PML and BMW did not even check to ensure something so obvious as misaligned bonnet and torn leather was not spotted when preparing the car for collection.
On the brighter side, at least the doors lock/unlock when I want it to, the engine starts every try and the transmission can go into drive every time.
MapleLeaf
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You are too kind to be true..... which I said is the cause of Singaporeans becoming complacent.
Quoting Thomas Edison.... "Show me a thoroughly satisfied man, and I will show you a failure."
Good is not good enought. Perfection is the yardstick of global challenge.
IT is cornered by the Indians; phones by the Koreans; life pleasures by the XMMs and misaligned military strength by the US. So whatever is left for us, let's do it perfectly....
Get it right the first time.... $2,200 bicycle is looking after staff welfare.
Slow_poke_driver;847892 said:
You are too kind to be true..... which I said is the cause of Singaporeans becoming complacent.
Quoting Thomas Edison.... "Show me a thoroughly satisfied man, and I will show you a failure."
Good is not good enought. Perfection is the yardstick of global challenge.
IT is cornered by the Indians; phones by the Koreans; life pleasures by the XMMs and misaligned military strength by the US. So whatever is left for us, let's do it perfectly....
Get it right the first time.... $2,200 bicycle is looking after staff welfare.
clamsgp
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M-Nut;847576 said:
I guess this is where it becomes ambiguous. If the rectification is just to replace a part then warranty is straightforward. Unfortunately for many issues, some kind of labor is involved to remove ancillary parts just to replace the defective part and that's where the problem is. Obviously, repair done by PML will not be "warranted" by MA as it could be due to poor workmanship or error and similarly for PML for any jobs done by MA.
clamsgp
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detach8;847725 said:
This is scary considering it's supposedly from a renown luxury marque. I'm beginning to think BMW is a little over-rated and over-hyped propagated by motoring journalists.
As for the seats, I noticed this is a particularly teething problem in BMW. Don't know if it's because the leather they used is not acclimatized for the weather and humidity here. The area on the "bolster" area of the seats always crumple and wear out a lot faster than the other parts because that's where we placed our bum first when getting into the car. That's why I always put a mat on the seat since the driver side of the seat is the most used.
nighthawkcity
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damn agree..
my new F20 doesnt feel like the tested F20 at PML..
zzz
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detach8;847712 said:
damn agree..
my new F20 doesnt feel like the tested F20 at PML..
zzz
:boring:
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Wow I thought when my screen,i-drive and radio failed after one week from collection is already pretty bad...as for the paint work my car has a rough patch on an area on the roof, was informed as water mark, I suspect is caused by inexperienced hands during polishing....no wonder some people I know would not let dealers touch their cars during PDI, rather they will send their car groomers to polish before collection.
clamsgp;848048 said:
Wow I thought when my screen,i-drive and radio failed after one week from collection is already pretty bad...as for the paint work my car has a rough patch on an area on the roof, was informed as water mark, I suspect is caused by inexperienced hands during polishing....no wonder some people I know would not let dealers touch their cars during PDI, rather they will send their car groomers to polish before collection.
Red_Bean_Bun
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They did not replace your car ? Or offer to buy it back ?
Slow_poke_driver;847771 said:
They did not replace your car ? Or offer to buy it back ?
