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[SAMLAMBO]

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Bro... I have tried the JB3 before.... don't like it cos I get CEL every now and then... very irritating... Even bro drumminz encountered this problem and has gone back twice to boss to reset it... don't have CEL with swiss chiptech.. actually I am very surprised u never encountered the CEL before...

From what I understand of your car is parallel import or the older software, it will throw a CEL. Mine is the updated software, hence no problem. I know of at four F13 owners with JB3, no issues.

 

[SAMLAMBO]

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Bro samlambo... maybe can ask for figures at wheels... my dyno were at wheels and alrdy getting 278bhp...

No ideas bro, I only told them to print out at crank/engine as that is exactly how much I am producing. At the wheels it all depends on the wear and tear on clutch on how much you put down.

 

[SAMLAMBO]

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It was good for me to go to a independent workshop to get my dyno done... Uber garage has no affiliation with Coco World selling the Swiss chiptech... so they can be non bias in running the dyno...

Maybe when i am free i may do a dyno at Boss and see if results are comparable...

That would be great, keep us posted!

 

[omshks]

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From what I understand of your car is parallel import or the older software, it will throw a CEL. Mine is the updated software, hence no problem. I know of at four F13 owners with JB3, no issues.

I hope I am not being discriminated becos I drive a PI car.... BUt having said that Bro drumminz's car is a PML 640i F13 and he had CEL not once but a few times! How do you explain that? Bro samlambo, maybe your car is special la...

In my humble opinion, if a piggyback hooks on 4 ports and changes too many parameters, it is inevitable that CEL will come on given that BMW on board computer is very sensitive in picking up changes...

 

[powersteer]

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No ideas bro, I only told them to print out at crank/engine as that is exactly how much I am producing. At the wheels it all depends on the wear and tear on clutch on how much you put down.

Those crank hp are all derived from whp unless ur dyno shop crated ur engine out for the runs. Hence crank figures will suffer from those potential errors you described and in fact, exaggerate the error

 

[omshks]

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Those crank hp are all derived from whp unless ur dyno shop crated ur engine out for the runs. Hence crank figures will suffer from those potential errors you described and in fact, exaggerate the error

I agree with you bro... I really wonder how they measure at crank... dyno at wheels would be a better true gauge...

 

[omshks]

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No ideas bro, I only told them to print out at crank/engine as that is exactly how much I am producing. At the wheels it all depends on the wear and tear on clutch on how much you put down.

Bro samlambo, your figures as given by Boss at crank are 332bhp and 529 Nm. If you compare to the official figures given by BMW for the 6 series N55 engine ( 320 bhp and 450Nm), your gains are only 12 bhp and 79 Nm.

 

[jasonmaxima]

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crank... wheel.... horsepower....

Toto will say.... Ai race mai? BUT....
Triple M will slay us all with his GTR....

 

[wobbles]

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crank... wheel.... horsepower....

Toto will say.... Ai race mai? BUT....
Triple M will slay us all with his GTR....

Wrong. Slay us 320hp 450Nm F12/13 bloated luxo-barges, not you. Your AMG (not AM鸡) will have us for breakfast....

 

[SAMLAMBO]

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Bro samlambo, your figures as given by Boss at crank are 332bhp and 529 Nm. If you compare to the official figures given by BMW for the 6 series N55 engine ( 320 bhp and 450Nm), your gains are only 12 bhp and 79 Nm.

Thats correct

 

[SAMLAMBO]

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I hope I am not being discriminated becos I drive a PI car.... BUt having said that Bro drumminz's car is a PML 640i F13 and he had CEL not once but a few times! How do you explain that? Bro samlambo, maybe your car is special la...

In my humble opinion, if a piggyback hooks on 4 ports and changes too many parameters, it is inevitable that CEL will come on given that BMW on board computer is very sensitive in picking up changes...

The only thing I can think of drummin'z car is that he needed to update his software. I also do know for a fact that there was another dark blue F12 at BOSS that had this JB3 put in with no issues. Whatever the case it has worked for me and another 2,3 F13/13. Cant speak for the rest, maybe I am special, haha

 

[SAMLAMBO]

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Those crank hp are all derived from whp unless ur dyno shop crated ur engine out for the runs. Hence crank figures will suffer from those potential errors you described and in fact, exaggerate the error

No idea how they work, I think best to go down to BOSS and ask them to a dyno/ask them how it works. But I do know for a fact because I have seen with my own eyes, many stock cars producing between 260-280hp at crank which I am sure they will show you.

 

[Boss Motorsports]

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Bro... I have tried the JB3 before.... don't like it cos I get CEL every now and then... very irritating... Even bro drumminz encountered this problem and has gone back twice to boss to reset it... don't have CEL with swiss chiptech.. actually I am very surprised u never encountered the CEL before...

To clear up any doubts owners might have, the JB3 works well on the F series N55 only if the BMW Firmware is V2.40.1 or newer. Generally, most Parallel Import F10/F13/F12 N55 comes with very old, outdated softwares with quite a couple of bugs. Even the "Transport Mode" was left On in most cases with Parallel Import Cars, causing lot's of communication error down the road. Proper diagnostic machines to do a "Pre-delievery preparation" is a must with the current Generation of Bimmers. We have done Dyno test on standard F10 535i with older firmwares and it turned out to be 40hp/60nm less than cars with the current firmware!

Good news is, the Juicebox 4 will be arriving soon for the F10/F12/F13 N55s sometime this month. This will be in another level of performance with 350HP/550NM on our Dyno as estimated...

I'm sure Samlambo will be the very first to have a JB4 on his White stallion!

 

[omshks]

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To clear up any doubts owners might have, the JB3 works well on the F series N55 only if the BMW Firmware is V2.40.1 or newer. Generally, most Parallel Import F10/F13/F12 N55 comes with very old, outdated softwares with quite a couple of bugs. Even the "Transport Mode" was left On in most cases with Parallel Import Cars, causing lot's of communication error down the road. Proper diagnostic machines to do a "Pre-delievery preparation" is a must with the current Generation of Bimmers. We have done Dyno test on standard F10 535i with older firmwares and it turned out to be 40hp/60nm less than cars with the current firmware!

Good news is, the Juicebox 4 will be arriving soon for the F10/F12/F13 N55s sometime this month. This will be in another level of performance with 350HP/550NM on our Dyno as estimated...

I'm sure Samlambo will be the very first to have a JB4 on his White stallion!

What about bro drumminz car? It is a PML 640i F13... current year... should be on latest firmware...right? How is it that he also encountered the CEL twice with the JB3 on?
Pls advise...

 

[SAMLAMBO]

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To clear up any doubts owners might have, the JB3 works well on the F series N55 only if the BMW Firmware is V2.40.1 or newer. Generally, most Parallel Import F10/F13/F12 N55 comes with very old, outdated softwares with quite a couple of bugs. Even the "Transport Mode" was left On in most cases with Parallel Import Cars, causing lot's of communication error down the road. Proper diagnostic machines to do a "Pre-delievery preparation" is a must with the current Generation of Bimmers. We have done Dyno test on standard F10 535i with older firmwares and it turned out to be 40hp/60nm less than cars with the current firmware!

Good news is, the Juicebox 4 will be arriving soon for the F10/F12/F13 N55s sometime this month. This will be in another level of performance with 350HP/550NM on our Dyno as estimated...

I'm sure Samlambo will be the very first to have a JB4 on his White stallion!

Nic, I better be the first or else..:twisted:

 

[Boss Motorsports]

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Drumminz = ? Sorry..since i come across a dozen nicknames daily, it is hard remembering all.

 

[darevo]

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Nic, I better be the first or else..:twisted:

JB3 works fine for my 640i as well (touch wood, no CEL). Nic im second for JB4 pls

 

[BoneDoc]

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To clear up any doubts owners might have, the JB3 works well on the F series N55 only if the BMW Firmware is V2.40.1 or newer.

How do we determine what firmware we have?

 

[SAMLAMBO]

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Nic,
WHERE'S MY JB4???

Guys,
I know that JB4 comes with autotuning which means that the piggyback will decide on what optimum boost levels to run at. Max is set at 16psi which is very safe.

Nic please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[haydenhoon]

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JB3 works fine for my 640i as well (touch wood, no CEL). Nic im second for JB4 pls

I also wan JB4 =)