The Barclays Premiership / Champions League Thread
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highbury
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That's a foregone conclusion. Team at the top vs team at the bottom.
ManU not as good as Arsenal - can lose a 4-goal lead in one game and concede a bluder goal in a cup final.
if the scoreline was the other way around, I'm sure you'll see a lot of comments here.
kenntona;617524 said:
That's a foregone conclusion. Team at the top vs team at the bottom.
ManU not as good as Arsenal - can lose a 4-goal lead in one game and concede a bluder goal in a cup final.
if the scoreline was the other way around, I'm sure you'll see a lot of comments here.
jonleeck
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Re: The Barclays Premiership / Champions League Thread
Revealed: My 10-part test that finally proves who's the better manager out of Fergie and Arsene
By Michael Calvin
.
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State of Play
Fergie is on the verge of his greatest achievement, winning a record 19th League title with a flawed, transitional team that reflects the force of his will. 9/10
Wenger reached nirvana, beating Barcelona with a team that mirrors his belief in art, athleticism and a geometric appreciation of space. 9
Business Acumen
Fergie’s insistence there is “no value in the market” has been criticised in the context of his support for the Glazers. Bebe may prove his point. 8
Wenger’s refusal to speculate infuriates, but he has the foresight and insight of a forensic accountant. The Emirates is his shrine. 9
Club Culture
Fergie revived the Busby spirit, regenerated respect for Family values and re-established United as a home for compulsive winners. 9
Wenger used George Graham’s raw material to build The Invincibles, and has developed a dynasty without matching United’s sense of identity. 8
Team Selection
Fergie is a master at managing people and relationships. His use of kindred spirits like Cantona, Keane (both right), Giggs and Gary Neville bridges the generation gap. 9
Wenger’s ferocity of faith inspires those around him. But his blind spot – denial of the fallibility of successive goalkeepers counts against him. 8
Trophies
Fergie judges his career by them. He has won 35 at United and has his eyes on three more before his 70th birthday. 10
Wenger doesn’t get high on silver polish. He has won 11 at Arsenal, including four Community Shields, but the best may yet be to come. 8
Influence
Fergie is revered by younger managers as a source of advice and practical assistance. 9
Wenger is respected by his peers for the rigour of his science, and the purity of his ambition. 8
Personality
Fergie is the control freak’s control freak. Clock-watching referees, bottom-feeding journalists, and multi-millionaire players are trapped in destiny’s tornado. 8
Wenger controls the control freak. By daring to be different, and decrying the macho culture of English management, he gets under Fergie’s skin. 9
Common touch
Fergie’s sense of social injustice is no prop. He retains the perspective of a father who slaved 70 hours a week for £7, and values self-education above all else. 9
Wenger is an ideallist, shaped by self denial and the contradiction of being a broad thinker in a narrow minded business. Fabregas regards him as a surrogate father. 8
Recruitment
Fergie follows Busby’s mantra that players should be identified, cultivated, protected. He’s widened the net to entrap boys from Brazil, Mexico and Portugal. 8
Wenger scouts brilliantly in Africa, Spain and France, shapes players to his philosophy. So good Barca accuse him of immorality. 9
Ruthlessness
Fergie’s belief that no player is bigger than the club transcends family friendships and personal loyalties. Acts on “animal instinct” – doesn’t he Becks? 9
Wenger discarded street wise players who helped make his name, and sharpened his claws sufficiently to sell Anelka and Adebayor for improbable profit. 8
Final score: Fergie 88 Wenger 84
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Revealed: My 10-part test that finally proves who's the better manager out of Fergie and Arsene
By Michael Calvin
.
Sign up for MirrorFootball's Morning Spy newsletter Register here
State of Play
Fergie is on the verge of his greatest achievement, winning a record 19th League title with a flawed, transitional team that reflects the force of his will. 9/10
Wenger reached nirvana, beating Barcelona with a team that mirrors his belief in art, athleticism and a geometric appreciation of space. 9
Business Acumen
Fergie’s insistence there is “no value in the market” has been criticised in the context of his support for the Glazers. Bebe may prove his point. 8
Wenger’s refusal to speculate infuriates, but he has the foresight and insight of a forensic accountant. The Emirates is his shrine. 9
Club Culture
Fergie revived the Busby spirit, regenerated respect for Family values and re-established United as a home for compulsive winners. 9
Wenger used George Graham’s raw material to build The Invincibles, and has developed a dynasty without matching United’s sense of identity. 8
Team Selection
Fergie is a master at managing people and relationships. His use of kindred spirits like Cantona, Keane (both right), Giggs and Gary Neville bridges the generation gap. 9
Wenger’s ferocity of faith inspires those around him. But his blind spot – denial of the fallibility of successive goalkeepers counts against him. 8
Trophies
Fergie judges his career by them. He has won 35 at United and has his eyes on three more before his 70th birthday. 10
Wenger doesn’t get high on silver polish. He has won 11 at Arsenal, including four Community Shields, but the best may yet be to come. 8
Influence
Fergie is revered by younger managers as a source of advice and practical assistance. 9
Wenger is respected by his peers for the rigour of his science, and the purity of his ambition. 8
Personality
Fergie is the control freak’s control freak. Clock-watching referees, bottom-feeding journalists, and multi-millionaire players are trapped in destiny’s tornado. 8
Wenger controls the control freak. By daring to be different, and decrying the macho culture of English management, he gets under Fergie’s skin. 9
Common touch
Fergie’s sense of social injustice is no prop. He retains the perspective of a father who slaved 70 hours a week for £7, and values self-education above all else. 9
Wenger is an ideallist, shaped by self denial and the contradiction of being a broad thinker in a narrow minded business. Fabregas regards him as a surrogate father. 8
Recruitment
Fergie follows Busby’s mantra that players should be identified, cultivated, protected. He’s widened the net to entrap boys from Brazil, Mexico and Portugal. 8
Wenger scouts brilliantly in Africa, Spain and France, shapes players to his philosophy. So good Barca accuse him of immorality. 9
Ruthlessness
Fergie’s belief that no player is bigger than the club transcends family friendships and personal loyalties. Acts on “animal instinct” – doesn’t he Becks? 9
Wenger discarded street wise players who helped make his name, and sharpened his claws sufficiently to sell Anelka and Adebayor for improbable profit. 8
Final score: Fergie 88 Wenger 84
Read more: Michael Calvin column: My 10-part test that finally proves who's the better manager out of Manchester United Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsenal Arsene Wenger - Michael Calvin - MirrorFootball.co.uk
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Re: The Barclays Premiership / Champions League Thread
Team Selection : Fergie is a master at managing people and relationships.
I love the way he coverted and controlled the "rascals" such as Ince and Cantona. No one else dares to throw boots at Becky, or fire Stam.
Team Selection : Fergie is a master at managing people and relationships.
I love the way he coverted and controlled the "rascals" such as Ince and Cantona. No one else dares to throw boots at Becky, or fire Stam.
dash
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It was a fair score la.
Arsenal, time to catch up! MTL! Would love to see AW's boys take the crown!
SAF cannot complain. He already got unfair advantage. Looney the thug was supposed to be banned for 3 games.
He got away with it, and that looney will now line up against Liverpool, SAF should burn josspapers thank heavens liao.
But like this morning, looney play, score also no use, becos Liverpool will win.
It was a fair score la.
Arsenal, time to catch up! MTL! Would love to see AW's boys take the crown!
SAF cannot complain. He already got unfair advantage. Looney the thug was supposed to be banned for 3 games.
He got away with it, and that looney will now line up against Liverpool, SAF should burn josspapers thank heavens liao.
But like this morning, looney play, score also no use, becos Liverpool will win.
Re: The Barclays Premiership / Champions League Thread
While I feel the cordial need to greet the referee's mother in extreme politeness, I think Man Utd is fortunate to have played Rooney. That elbow move was seen in some Thai Boxing arena in Bangkok.
As for Vidic's absence against Liverpool, there is only one consolation. Huge consolation. WHERE'S TORRES?
Oh well, Arsenal has Van Pussy resting for 3 weeks I heard? Still 4 points gap, unless Arsenal wins the next game. Can try counting the chicks even before the eggs are hatched.
Back to the referee. Well done. How's your mother?
While I feel the cordial need to greet the referee's mother in extreme politeness, I think Man Utd is fortunate to have played Rooney. That elbow move was seen in some Thai Boxing arena in Bangkok.
As for Vidic's absence against Liverpool, there is only one consolation. Huge consolation. WHERE'S TORRES?
Oh well, Arsenal has Van Pussy resting for 3 weeks I heard? Still 4 points gap, unless Arsenal wins the next game. Can try counting the chicks even before the eggs are hatched.
Back to the referee. Well done. How's your mother?
Re: The Barclays Premiership / Champions League Thread
Chelsea 2 Man United 1 | The Sun |Sport|Football
Ref Atkinson is Chelsea's lucky charm. In 11 Blues games he has taken charge of they have won 10 and drawn one. If they can have him every week, they might still win the title.
kenntona;618262 said:
Chelsea 2 Man United 1 | The Sun |Sport|Football
Ref Atkinson is Chelsea's lucky charm. In 11 Blues games he has taken charge of they have won 10 and drawn one. If they can have him every week, they might still win the title.
