Strangest Place on Earth - In Using Hazard & Signal Lights.......

kenntona

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Today's Straits Times......

Oct 13, 2007
Where blinking lights rule but signal lights are optional
By Tion Kwa

I DON'T drive. And I'll go to my grave that way; when I grow old, I'll expect my kids to ferry dear old dad around. That said, I like to think I'm a pretty good back-seat driver. Or rather, a left-hand-seat driver, for that's my position next to my wife. She, on the other hand, doesn't think I'm too hot a back/left-seat driver; she says I should learn to drive or shut up.

Whatever. The fact is, the front left side's mine. And from where I sit, there's a good view of other cars and motorcycles on the road, and without the distraction of actually driving. After 21/2 years here of watching traffic from this position, I have a question: Why do Singapore road users navigate the way they do?

(I say 'road users' and not 'Singaporeans' because I've noticed people in my neighbourhood that I know to be non-Singaporeans driving the same way.)

Singaporeans do everything by the book. The city is a remarkably well-ordered place. Look, for instance, at any carpark. Not only is every car clean and polished, but also they're all backed into their parking space. (The ones that aren't often have a Malaysian number plate.) And just last year, I finally learnt (to the surprise of everyone else in the room) what 'SOP' meant - standard operating procedures that guide practices in the office and practically everywhere else.

But the SOP on the road baffles me. Road usage, apparently, takes little tangents from the highway code. For one thing, I've never seen drivers use their hazard lights as much as in Singapore. Blinking tail lights, it seems, excuse all manner of odd conduct. You can wait along roads where you aren't supposed to if you have blinking lights. You can dash into 7-Eleven and leave your car by double lines if you have blinking lights. You can wait on top of zig-zaggy double lines if you have blinking lights.

Trying to get into the carpark at the Esplanade theatre last week, we should have realised sooner that the cars in front weren't in line for the entrance. A wedding party had abandoned their cars for photo opportunities in front of the theatre.

Should have noticed the blinking lights.

Blinking lights also mean it's okay for cab drivers to dive across lanes to pick up passengers.
Blinking lights allow drivers to slow to a crawl for unknown reasons, causing a tailback. ('What the...Whoap! He's got blinking lights. Relax everybody, it's okay.')

The curious thing is, while hazard lights get a lot of use, turn signals don't. They're the same lights, after all.

If a tree falls in the middle of a forest and no one's around, does it make a sound? And if a car's making a turn in a quiet suburban street, does it need to signal? Something like that.

There's a stop sign near our home, and we always hesitate there longer than other people. Mainly because we haven't figured how to tell which cars intend to go straight ahead and which cars turn. Turn signals would make things so much simpler.

A Malaysian friend of ours in Hong Kong likes to drive in the middle of the road, straddling the dividing line, if there are no other cars around. Cab drivers here like to do this on the PIE. I'm beginning to think this is a South-east Asian habit that I'd earlier missed.

Which brings me to changing lanes. Turn signals apparently are optional. I asked a colleague about this, and she admitted that she too didn't signal. Reason: If you do, someone behind in the next lane will speed up to stop you moving over. From my vantage on the front left-side, I think she's right. Now, I have a bike. A bicycle, that is. And having ridden on the roads, I can appreciate what motorcyclists say about car drivers. They don't see them. I understand this because they don't see me on my bicycle even more.

But motorcyclists confuse me too. Call me silly, but I think motorbikes are entitled to full use of the whole lane of a road. Yet, rather than rightly asserting their presence smack in the middle of the lane, they take the in-between space: in-between cars in side-by-side lanes; right on top of the lane divider. Maybe they're right, and car drivers don't give them enough respect (but wait till you're on a bicycle!), yet that in-between- lane riding position often puts them in a car's blind spot. There really is a reason motorcyclists sometimes aren't seen.

Finally, there are the flashing headlights (as opposed to flashing hazard lights.) Usually, you flash your headlights to indicate danger or to tut-tut at someone for bad behaviour. Flashing headlights, however, are more often used here to say: 'Stay out of my way, I'm speeding up to beat this traffic light!' It applies up in Malaysia too. When a big car comes to within 10 feet of your tail and flashes its lights, that means: 'Move over. Now!'

Of course, Singapore drivers aren't the only ones with odd practices. In India, you might find a happy little message at the back of trucks: 'Honk if you like my driving.' So there's a happy honk to complement angry honks, which means there's a lot of honking.

In Sri Lanka, I once had a rental car driver (such a good thing it is that rental cars there come with drivers) who took his hands off the wheel to pray every time we passed a Buddhist temple.

There's enough craziness on the roads, here and elsewhere. I don't need to make a contribution. I'll keep to my left side of the car. How old must my daughters be before they can drive?

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Re: Strangest Place on Earth - In Using Hazard & Signal Lights.......

Imo nothing wrong mah...its not that its OK to do this and that with your hazard lights on...but at least its some form of notification to other road users.
 
Re: Strangest Place on Earth - In Using Hazard & Signal Lights.......

at the end of the day... he is not a driver and will never be... and thats ghey... so he better shut up

why rant about something thats not gonna change
 
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kenntona;258685 said:
I'll keep to my left side of the car.
talk so much..main point is the last sentence..:lol2:
 
Re: Strangest Place on Earth - In Using Hazard & Signal Lights.......

Why doesn't he talk about the suspected QUOTA BASED TICKET SYSTEM?

Just borrowing an idea from Csaba Csere this month:

Cop #1: Hey that dude was like swerving to the centre lane and back again, nearly swiped the other car coming the opposite direction. Obviously he's drunk! Let go check him out!

Cop #2: you kidding me right? We're WAY behind in quotas this month, and you wanna go chase a drunk and spend half an hour with the breathanalyser test and then another hour bringing him in? Let's go roam the highway instead at PIE and go whack some WRX wannabes or Evos and probably that black Porsche GT3 regular ...

Next day: DRUNK DRIVER KILLS FAMILY

You see? Quota based is evil!
 
Re: Strangest Place on Earth - In Using Hazard & Signal Lights.......

He is right about one thing. The vagrant use of hazard lights is unacceptable.
 
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caySman;258717 said:
Why doesn't he talk about the suspected QUOTA BASED TICKET SYSTEM?

Just borrowing an idea from Csaba Csere this month:

Cop #1: Hey that dude was like swerving to the centre lane and back again, nearly swiped the other car coming the opposite direction. Obviously he's drunk! Let go check him out!

Cop #2: you kidding me right? We're WAY behind in quotas this month, and you wanna go chase a drunk and spend half an hour with the breathanalyser test and then another hour bringing him in? Let's go roam the highway instead at PIE and go whack some WRX wannabes or Evos and probably that black Porsche GT3 regular ...

Next day: DRUNK DRIVER KILLS FAMILY

You see? Quota based is evil!
wow..:yikess: real story?
 
Re: Strangest Place on Earth - In Using Hazard & Signal Lights.......

this quota based system causes loads of upsets, unfair and simply not the right way to go about things.

my peeve is with drivers that turn on their hazards while MOVING, usually like in the rain...

and to a certain extent terry is right. he's just not a driver, and these excuses reek of a lack of motor coordination that he's bitter about.
 
Re: Strangest Place on Earth - In Using Hazard & Signal Lights.......

When someone gave way, I turn on the hazards for 2~3 flashes as I passes to say thank you. Is that alright?
 
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nYteMarE;258776 said:
this quota based system causes loads of upsets, unfair and simply not the right way to go about things.

my peeve is with drivers that turn on their hazards while MOVING, usually like in the rain...

and to a certain extent terry is right. he's just not a driver, and these excuses reek of a lack of motor coordination that he's bitter about.

imho this is fine IF the rain is very very heavy and the car has no foglights
 
Re: Strangest Place on Earth - In Using Hazard & Signal Lights.......

that's my peeve.

if you've got your hazads on, to me you're a stopped vehicle. don't turn it on if you're still driving at 40-60 in that weather, fogs or no fogs.
 
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About not letting people in when they signal.....I confess I am guilty of this sometimes....because of all my bitter experiences getting stuck behind members of that vast army of dumbfux out there who DON'T #$#$ing ACCELERATE WHEN THEY SEE A GREEN LIGHT! Of course the light changes, they sail through the yellow at their standard 12km/hr, and I get stuck at the red. Don't these idiots know what a green light means? It means FLOOR IT --RIGHT NOW!!!! On the other hand, I do give way to people who, I have reason to believe, are going to go for that green even faster than I will. You know, the people in 911 Turbos, Murcielagos, or who may well be suicidal or insane [WRX etc]. Those people I always accommodate. So at least I am a man of principle.
 
Re: Strangest Place on Earth - In Using Hazard & Signal Lights.......

oh ... oh ... the turbo fumes .... :)

Anyway, unless you're a taxi with huge 1st gear torque, most of the manual transmission passenger cars don't consistently launch fast. So no need to give way. Esp the triple carbon clutch plate guys ... I think you can eat them alive at least to make 10-20 car lengths, after which the murcie will pass you if he wants to in 2nd.
 
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i think we should all just learn to signal...and also say thank you and sorry when we should...it will definitely improve things by at least 50%..and that's A LOT for everyday driving...perhaps the whole forum should make an effort...soon we'll get people writing in saying "i seem to notice drivers of XXX cars stand out with their courteous behaviours"......seriously...what say you guys?
 
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I think great. Say thank you when it's due. When this guy make it difficult for you, say thank you also just to spite him.
 
Re: Strangest Place on Earth - In Using Hazard & Signal Lights.......

All for courteous driving...but no hazard lights while moving please (rain or no rain). It's completely confusing plus no one can see your signal...
 
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kleong007;260525 said:
All for courteous driving...but no hazard lights while moving please (rain or no rain). It's completely confusing plus no one can see your signal...

What Signal? ;)
 
Re: Strangest Place on Earth - In Using Hazard & Signal Lights.......

Precisely..if you are moving with hazard lights on, you cannot signal and no one knows if you are changing lanes or turning!!
 

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