Running in advice

oomph

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SE advised that BMW's are already run in at factory and advised that for first 2000km :
- less than 4000 rpm
- less than 140kmh

Does anyone feel that one should be more conservative and stretch this out to at least the first 5000 km ?

Also first when did you guys do your first engine/transmission oil change ? According to the on board computer ?
 
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Whack the car man, why sayang2. This is no old day type of engine. All the tolerances in the engine are very precisely made. Read your manual lah friend, dont trust SE, trust the manufacturers word. Normally after the 1st oil change whack your car to its maximum once in a while and progressively. Dont tell me u wanna drive ur 170bhp car like a 70hp car until ur car reaches 5000km hehehhehe
 
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yeah the manual also says the same as the SE. thing is based on the conditional driving computer, i don't think an oil change is required until after some >20,000 kms !

i believe some guys have gone ahead to change oil at the 5000km mark, which i think is the right thing to do....but the manual doesn't say so !
 
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after 2000km just whack the car. shld be ample time to break in the car.

if u want to sayang your car after whacking it, then change oil at 5000km or 10,000km but do not reset the oil change counter. manual tells u to do the correct thing but it is not always the best thing.
 
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most modern day cars have already been run in...so it doesn't really matter whether you do it during the 1st 2000km or not...most people don't even keep their cars beyond 5 to 6 years these days anyway..

besides, if you got a lemon, you got a lemon. no amount of sayanging will change that...so just enjoy the car and drive it because you deserve to from day one...considering the good money it costs you...

just some unsolicited comments =)
 
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2,000km : 1st thing I did was bring the car to NS Highway and whacked it to top speed of 250km/h. Make the money worth while :yummie:
now 12,000 : no oil change yet. wait till 25,000 as recommended
no worries
 
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Good to change oil at the first 10k because as you run in the engine, a lot of metal shaving off the engine will be in the engine oil
 
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IMO, Everyone needs to run in their cars. Factories produce hundreds and thousands of cars per year and if you do some maths, it is really a lot of engines to run in. Even though they bench run the engines, there is no load and the main purpose is to check if all the necessary functions are working (sensors, injectors, ignition, blah blah) If they were to load the engines on a dyno, the hooking up is already not effective.

Therefore, i do urge all new owners (especically if you own a mass produced car) to run-in your engine and car when you pick it up. How to run in?

For the 1st 1000km, keep the car at half redline maximum. Occasionally bring the car about 1000rpm higher than half redline (like in acceleration). Once the first 1000km goes, change the oil and filter. The oil may not be black and thick but the metal particles in the oil and filter cannot be seen. Now increase both running and occasional limits by 500rpm for every tank of fuel. So at about 3500km, you car chould be totally run in.

Why run in? The bearings and cylinder rings need to match their surfaces together and failure to do so will cause some metal particles that get worn off maturally to remain trapped in the wear surface and then cause a burn or artificial wear mark. With lower crank speeds, the oil has a better chance of moving the particles away.

If you start extending the engine from day 1, there should be greater clearance between the wear surfaces and hence liberating a little more power ( about 1-4hp more depending on CC) But the down side is greater oil consumption and lesser engine life. The engine life is not really applicable if you intend to keep the car for
 
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I'm at 4400kms and wanted to share my experience in running in my e60:

29KM: New and tight
- upon collection (new) car felt underpowered compared to test drive. 13.4L per 100kmh even though i'm driving conservatively.

2000KM: Breaking free from running-in speeds
- when broke through 2000km mark, engine starts to rev more freely, gear changes faster. big difference felt when moving upslope and standing starts.

3300KM: Oil Top-up
- Paniced at the sight of low oil and jumped into the nearest petrol kiosk to topup with 0-40
W synthetic, only to find out that BMW offered free 1L oil for this purpose in the goodies pack.

4400KM: ECU learns my driving style.
- Onboard computer reads 13L per 100Km for my rough driving style. On par with my 1.8L turbo Passat. ECU mapping has caught up and the ride is certainly zippier and faster pickup.

I'm a happy motorist now, and I'm going for an oil change at 5000km.:)
 
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For me very simple. Just follow what the manual says. If it never says, means don't need to do anything. This is a modern piece of machine, gone were the days of old wifes' tales.
 
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kurqa said:
most modern day cars have already been run in...so it doesn't really matter whether you do it during the 1st 2000km or not


I believe this is not correct. During the first Technical Talk that we organised, we specifically asked the BMW area manager, a german guy who shutter between factories and he confirm that there is NO factory run in for BMW.

IMO, run in is crucial since all parts when new need to be conditioned and properly run in. Forging process for all metal parts and smootthening of all moving parts.
 
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engine must run in one.....halo....even human beings must stretch before doing strenous exercise...so....so.....
why the rush to wack the car.....2000km is easy to achieve mah.....and keeping under 4000rpm is quite good liao.....pay so much....then engine damage....next buyer mai buay ah....
:)
 
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My car has just gone over the 3k km mark and I am thinking of servicing my car at 5k km. Asked my CSA about servicing the car at PML and was quoted $320. She also told me that they will not reset the service counter and this would only be for oil change. I asked her about sending the car outside but she told me (I fully expected this) that this could void the warranty.

My question is, if I send it to say, BVO for servicing, I am sure they are experienced enough to do it so that PML would not even know that someone has serviced the car. Or should I just send it to PML?
 

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