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Piggybacks for our E46's

niteblu

niteblu

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Done intake. exhaust.
some minor ignition tweaks.
Figure next best thing is to tune up the car.

Don't expect much either way. 10hp, maybe 15 max.
but it's more about optimising performance. Smoothening the curve.
maybe get a lil bit better fuel efficiency along the way.

BVO, J4C reflash is pretty dear.
Costing upwards of $1k.
And not too sure if it's better than live/driving & tuning

Obit seems pretty popular, not sure why.
Cos it doesn't seem to be well regarded amongst piggybacks.
At least vs. Emanage/Unichip.

I'm leaning towards Unichip.
That I used to use for my prev. ride...
Figure I can pickup a used Unichip Q for our ride.
Then get it tuned.

What do you guys think?... any input is welcome :)

Anyone have one in the storeroom to clear?
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

Reflashing will definately get u most performance..
Because only by reflashing, will ur ECU be able to be tuned to MAXIMUM performance (as per Bernard/BVO ).
Piggybacks and good because the process in "reusable"...
They can be removed and reset to be used on ur next car....

Performance wise - Reflashing.
Cost efficiency - Piggybacks. (Orbit or UniChip).

Just my 2 cents.
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

niteblu;335286 said:
Obit seems pretty popular, not sure why.
Cos it doesn't seem to be well regarded amongst piggybacks.
At least vs. Emanage/Unichip.

I'm leaning towards Unichip.
That I used to use for my prev. ride...
Figure I can pickup a used Unichip Q for our ride.
Then get it tuned.

What do you guys think?... any input is welcome :)

Anyone have one in the storeroom to clear?
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Q is the lastest in line for Unichip..... Good Stuff.........
I think Q can be used for turbo charged cars too.......
Brand New est. price shld be abt S$500 - S$600........ :)
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

milk15;335293 said:
Q is the lastest in line for Unichip..... Good Stuff.........
I think Q can be used for turbo charged cars too.......
Brand New est. price shld be abt S$500 - S$600........ :)
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Guni, dont like that.
I very tempted already...

$500 - $600 incl installation and tuning??? :)
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

Herman;335295 said:
Guni, dont like that.
I very tempted already...

$500 - $600 incl installation and tuning??? :)
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For the module itself only la........... :laughlik: I dun wan do for you la...... Wait u say i tok u again!!!!!
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

U nvr tok la...
Only infect poison.
The above is proof !!!!!

What will be the total dmg?
After adding up also the price of reflashing?
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

Phil wanna do a "Group Tune".

Den maybe pretty Guni can give us a better price.........
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

group tune your piggyback face

I tune in secret. Plus im not doing a dyno pull against a 320, haha
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

Den GB for the module...
And u can do ur tuning in ur underground secret lair.
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

Herman;335289 said:
Reflashing will definately get u most performance..
Because only by reflashing, will ur ECU be able to be tuned to MAXIMUM performance (as per Bernard/BVO ).
Piggybacks and good because the process in "reusable"...
They can be removed and reset to be used on ur next car....

Performance wise - Reflashing.
Cost efficiency - Piggybacks. (Orbit or UniChip).

Just my 2 cents.
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Your 2 cents worth alot lah... :)

Actually I think the perf difference btw reflash & piggyback is not huge.
Expect about 10-15hp gain either way.
I think its just schools of thought. and one is transferrable (sort of)

Brand new, reflashing maybe a bit more expensive than UnichipQ.
About $1k+ vs $700+ (inc. tuning)

Figured I could pickup a old Unichip (abt. $150-200), or used Q ($350-400)
Then get it tuned for a bit more.

I've very little illusion about our sporting aspirations haha...
We're not talking 50-100hp gains.
That'd you expect from an FI setup.
So cheaper is better.

Cheeeap cheeap..
Good good.
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

I think the Active Autowerk Stage 3 SuperCharger gives us around 100bhp increase. Thats what they claim...
And it will cost u a BOMB.

I wouldnt mind getting a second-hand Q chip too....
Getting quite bored of the car already :(
I need POWER !!!!

Bro niteblue...
Tompang ur thread.

*** SUBSCRIBED ***
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

Herman;335303 said:
U nvr tok la...
Only infect poison.
The above is proof !!!!!

What will be the total dmg?
After adding up also the price of reflashing?
Click to expand...

niteblu;335339 said:
Your 2 cents worth alot lah... :)

Actually I think the perf difference btw reflash & piggyback is not huge.
Expect about 10-15hp gain either way.
I think its just schools of thought. and one is transferrable (sort of)

Brand new, reflashing maybe a bit more expensive than UnichipQ.
About $1k+ vs $700+ (inc. tuning)

Figured I could pickup a old Unichip (abt. $150-200), or used Q ($350-400)
Then get it tuned for a bit more.

I've very little illusion about our sporting aspirations haha...
We're not talking 50-100hp gains.
That'd you expect from an FI setup.
So cheaper is better.

Cheeeap cheeap..
Good good.
Click to expand...

Expected gain 20 - 30hp gains............
Total dmg abt - S$1200........... :)
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

Herman;335341 said:
I think the Active Autowerk Stage 3 SuperCharger gives us around 100bhp increase. Thats what they claim...
And it will cost u a BOMB.

I wouldnt mind getting a second-hand Q chip too....
Getting quite bored of the car already :(
I need POWER !!!!

Bro niteblue...
Tompang ur thread.

*** SUBSCRIBED ***
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No worries man...
tompang all you want!
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

milk15;335349 said:
Expected gain 20 - 30hp gains............
Total dmg abt - S$1200........... :)
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Guni this is the one u told me about before at ur office right?
So in future, able to remove chip and re-tune for another car tio bo?
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

niteblu;335339 said:
Figured I could pickup a old Unichip (abt. $150-200), or used Q ($350-400)
Then get it tuned for a bit more.
Click to expand...

The older version of Unichip A, B, C & D are for individual make/model (crank pattern & programming is done only in DOS mode).
Eg. Version A is only meant for Honda trigger so for Mitsubishi Version A will not be suitable. For BMW will have to test which version will be suitable.

Where by for the Q (programming is done with Window XP), all crank patterns are already pre-set into the software. 1 click, you will have different patterns.

Herman;335366 said:
Guni this is the one u told me about before at ur office right?
So in future, able to remove chip and re-tune for another car tio bo?
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Got meh??? Did i told u??? :lol2: :lol2: Remove & re-tune only for the Q....
A,B,C & D have to remove and test again (See above for the explaination).
Not 100% gurantee can use..
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

So u are recommending the Q la.
Its just plug-and-play right?

I read frm US website that installation will take no more than 20minutes.
Than tuning will take how long?
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

Herman;335688 said:
So u are recommending the Q la.
Its just plug-and-play right?

I read frm US website that installation will take no more than 20minutes.
Than tuning will take how long?
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Plug & Play ur ass la............. :furious: The plug & play... the wirring harness is more expensive then ur Q module...... u ah sia can afford la..... buy the Q + the plug & play harness..... installation 19mins..... :lol2: :lol2:
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

So Unichip Q + Wiring Harness + Installation + Tuning = $1200 ?
 
Re: Piggybacks for our E46's

milk15;335693 said:
Plug & Play ur ass la............. :furious: The plug & play... the wirring harness is more expensive then ur Q module...... u ah sia can afford la..... buy the Q + the plug & play harness..... installation 19mins..... :lol2: :lol2:
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Herman;335694 said:
So Unichip Q + Wiring Harness + Installation + Tuning = $1200 ?
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U haven wake up izzit??? Unichip Q + Wirring (tapping onto ur original wires) + Tuning = Est abt S$1200.

But u stay at Tg Rhu...... confirmed more expensive... :lol2: :lol2:
 
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