New BMW ///M3 4-door sedan & cabriolet
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centurion
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Re: New BMW ///M3 4-door sedan & cabriolet
I beg to differ from your point of view. Chris Bangle was ridiculed, even the big shots at Mercedes laughed at their 7-series.
BUT, the packaging advantages of Bangle's design are palpable, and everybody followed suit.
Now, you cannot envision a world without Chris Bangle. The Lexus GS, IS and then LS all made possible because of the 7-series, then 5 and then 3. The Mercedes S-Class and the new C-class all have the bangle element. The new EvoX has it too.
VAG and the Ford group did not follow suit yet, but the rest are already converted.
The new Z4 coupe looks beautiful and has beaten all in its class so far in many comparos. Their new 3- need getting used to, but it renders the E46 as outdated. The old 5- and 7- series are really rendered obsolete in looks by the new 5- and 7- and I don't have to say that the Z4 is far more attractive than the Z3.
I beg to differ from your point of view. Chris Bangle was ridiculed, even the big shots at Mercedes laughed at their 7-series.
BUT, the packaging advantages of Bangle's design are palpable, and everybody followed suit.
Now, you cannot envision a world without Chris Bangle. The Lexus GS, IS and then LS all made possible because of the 7-series, then 5 and then 3. The Mercedes S-Class and the new C-class all have the bangle element. The new EvoX has it too.
VAG and the Ford group did not follow suit yet, but the rest are already converted.
The new Z4 coupe looks beautiful and has beaten all in its class so far in many comparos. Their new 3- need getting used to, but it renders the E46 as outdated. The old 5- and 7- series are really rendered obsolete in looks by the new 5- and 7- and I don't have to say that the Z4 is far more attractive than the Z3.
Re: New BMW ///M3 4-door sedan & cabriolet
last time, in the olden days, police wears shorts.
Bangle rules....only thing am not use to about the new M3 is the bonnet bulge. With time, it will set in. If bangle dont rule, why did BMW sell more than 100k 3 series
last time, in the olden days, police wears shorts.
Bangle rules....only thing am not use to about the new M3 is the bonnet bulge. With time, it will set in. If bangle dont rule, why did BMW sell more than 100k 3 series
Re: New BMW ///M3 4-door sedan & cabriolet
well, I guess to each his own then. I personally do not mind the 5 or the 7, since I used to own 2 745s myself. However, I just find that for the 3 series, which is supposed to a smallish car, it is kind of clumsy looking and not graceful as it should be, as opposed to the e46. I do agree with you that the Z4 looks better than the Z3 but at the same time you can't deny the fact that some older designs do look better than current ones...
well, I guess to each his own then. I personally do not mind the 5 or the 7, since I used to own 2 745s myself. However, I just find that for the 3 series, which is supposed to a smallish car, it is kind of clumsy looking and not graceful as it should be, as opposed to the e46. I do agree with you that the Z4 looks better than the Z3 but at the same time you can't deny the fact that some older designs do look better than current ones...
foxfrc5
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Re: New BMW ///M3 4-door sedan & cabriolet
Actually I don't think this info on the E36 M3 is totally correct, although it may be accurate for a specific country (where this article is probably taken from).
The E36 M3 sedan was definitely offered for more than one year. I recall seeing them on the streets of Europe in 1995. It was on the price lists of many car mags for several years. I think the last one to be registered in Singapore was registered in 1998 (estoril blue if I remember correctly).
The 3.0 engine delivered 286 bhp in Euro spec, and 240 bhp in US spec. From 1996 onwards, the 3.2 engine delivered 321 bhp in Euro spec. This is the version with OBDII that was notoriously more difficult to mod than the earlier cars.
Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
Ahbengdriver;183943 said:
Actually I don't think this info on the E36 M3 is totally correct, although it may be accurate for a specific country (where this article is probably taken from).
The E36 M3 sedan was definitely offered for more than one year. I recall seeing them on the streets of Europe in 1995. It was on the price lists of many car mags for several years. I think the last one to be registered in Singapore was registered in 1998 (estoril blue if I remember correctly).
The 3.0 engine delivered 286 bhp in Euro spec, and 240 bhp in US spec. From 1996 onwards, the 3.2 engine delivered 321 bhp in Euro spec. This is the version with OBDII that was notoriously more difficult to mod than the earlier cars.
Please correct me if I'm mistaken.
centurion
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Re: New BMW ///M3 4-door sedan & cabriolet
With regard to the E90 3-series, for the record, I find it a GOOD SIGHT more agile looking than the E46 after a year of looking at it. To me, it cross the line from being a stupid looking car to a nice looking car once I saw a WHITE one, which was about 6 months after its launch.
Yes, the 635CSI is the most beautiful BMW ever made. To date, nothing matches it. I went to PML in Sime and saw one second hand one, I asked to buy it but was refused on grounds that it was unavailable for sale.MRacer77;184287 said:
With regard to the E90 3-series, for the record, I find it a GOOD SIGHT more agile looking than the E46 after a year of looking at it. To me, it cross the line from being a stupid looking car to a nice looking car once I saw a WHITE one, which was about 6 months after its launch.
Re: New BMW ///M3 4-door sedan & cabriolet
mm the old E24 6ers? my dad used to hav one... never had the chance to drive it... sigh...
yea, it's a very nice , elegant and sporty sharknose car..... not very pedestrian friendly...hehehe...
the E90, i think it kinda grew one me, gotta kit it out to look decent though
mm the old E24 6ers? my dad used to hav one... never had the chance to drive it... sigh...
yea, it's a very nice , elegant and sporty sharknose car..... not very pedestrian friendly...hehehe...
the E90, i think it kinda grew one me, gotta kit it out to look decent though
foxfrc5
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Re: New BMW ///M3 4-door sedan & cabriolet
When did you get your E30? Is it the one-owner silver one that was for sale recently? I was thinking pretty hard about buying it.
Hi MRacer77, slightly OT but have you signed up on the E21/E30 Classics registry thread (under BMW Singapore Motoring Life)?MRacer77;184287 said:
When did you get your E30? Is it the one-owner silver one that was for sale recently? I was thinking pretty hard about buying it.
foxfrc5
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Re: New BMW ///M3 4-door sedan & cabriolet
It's grey with RD rims, and has a manual transmission, I think.
There is a very nice E24 6 series (not sure but think it may be a 628csi) around town that recently underwent a 1 or 2-year restoration at PML. I heard it was for sale. Some of the forumers here know the owner. I think Ben at Autoincsports may also be in contact with him.caySman;184366 said:
It's grey with RD rims, and has a manual transmission, I think.
Re: New BMW ///M3 4-door sedan & cabriolet
When they face-lift the E90 sedan, ie. somewhere during 2008.
foxfrc5;184406 said:
When they face-lift the E90 sedan, ie. somewhere during 2008.
