Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
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DreamDriver
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Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
You need him: wilman2772
You need him: wilman2772
Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
HI there,
Thank you for your fast advise,
infact I have PM him about 2-3 weeks ago after I saw the SETRAB cooler in his car from the review done by one of the guys here.
But there was no reply. So thought maybe can get more info from here.
Thank you so much.
Cheers
DreamDriver said:
HI there,
Thank you for your fast advise,
infact I have PM him about 2-3 weeks ago after I saw the SETRAB cooler in his car from the review done by one of the guys here.
But there was no reply. So thought maybe can get more info from here.
Thank you so much.
Cheers
DreamDriver
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Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
He say never receive your PM, ask you to call/SMS him 96905511.
He say never receive your PM, ask you to call/SMS him 96905511.
Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
Arrow here Arrow there...
Arrow yourself and get one for your own car la!!!!
DreamDriver said:
Arrow here Arrow there...
Arrow yourself and get one for your own car la!!!!
Racebred
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Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
what is your car? is it an E46? Generic oil coolers usually do not work on E46s (as far as I know, it should apply to all M54 engines too) as there is no positive pressure pumping oil through any aftermarket oil coolers. Your oil will simply bypass the oil cooler pipes and carry on the original route.
The technik setrab oil cooler wilman carries has been R&Ded to circumvent this problem, through more precise calculations on fluid dynamics, which explains the additional cost over and above the setrab oil cooler off the shelf. As far as i know, again, this is the only oil cooler system that works on our car. So if you need an oil cooler, then you should approach him for it, and not through any other setrab distributor.
however, one should only get an oil cooler if you have your oil temp data and it consistently breaches the 125 degree level under hard driving. From my memory and experience, your engine will go into limp home mode at about 135-140 degrees.
what is your car? is it an E46? Generic oil coolers usually do not work on E46s (as far as I know, it should apply to all M54 engines too) as there is no positive pressure pumping oil through any aftermarket oil coolers. Your oil will simply bypass the oil cooler pipes and carry on the original route.
The technik setrab oil cooler wilman carries has been R&Ded to circumvent this problem, through more precise calculations on fluid dynamics, which explains the additional cost over and above the setrab oil cooler off the shelf. As far as i know, again, this is the only oil cooler system that works on our car. So if you need an oil cooler, then you should approach him for it, and not through any other setrab distributor.
however, one should only get an oil cooler if you have your oil temp data and it consistently breaches the 125 degree level under hard driving. From my memory and experience, your engine will go into limp home mode at about 135-140 degrees.
Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
AFAIK, wot Wilman has in his car is oso Setrab oil cooler (not exactly custom made either), so wot is the difference between wot he has and wot Setrab distributor has to offer?
They are the same product arent they? Just hv to ensure the prod number is the same for the same application.
Racebred said:
AFAIK, wot Wilman has in his car is oso Setrab oil cooler (not exactly custom made either), so wot is the difference between wot he has and wot Setrab distributor has to offer?
They are the same product arent they? Just hv to ensure the prod number is the same for the same application.
Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
Working fine with me and my oil temp gauge proofs it(although it is calibrated wrongly)............Wilman is the tecknik one. Mine is half tecnik/half home-made.
Will be changing mine to a bigger cooler and newer 45deg angled JIC/NPT joints.(a.k.a Tecnik kit)
Otherwise, adaptor cap is the same!!! Will be remodifying hoses to full original nomax hoses from aeroquip. And not the wrap-around one tecnik uses. Look more garang!!
Anyway, I already posted this a long time ago. Anyone with interest,contact wilson! He is already bringing some in - So, dont miss the opportunity.
And if you don't intent to track at all - it's just money wasted.
Working fine with me and my oil temp gauge proofs it(although it is calibrated wrongly)............Wilman is the tecknik one. Mine is half tecnik/half home-made.
Will be changing mine to a bigger cooler and newer 45deg angled JIC/NPT joints.(a.k.a Tecnik kit)
Otherwise, adaptor cap is the same!!! Will be remodifying hoses to full original nomax hoses from aeroquip. And not the wrap-around one tecnik uses. Look more garang!!
Anyway, I already posted this a long time ago. Anyone with interest,contact wilson! He is already bringing some in - So, dont miss the opportunity.
And if you don't intent to track at all - it's just money wasted.
Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
Bro,
This is the latest from Technik!!! Dam steam!! New Setrab Adaptors somemore!!
2 sets just arrived my place yesterday....
Swee hor???
I ordered the new Setrab adaptors for me car too.......the new ones too nice liao.....
kekekekeke
'The Great White'
Racebred said:
Bro,
This is the latest from Technik!!! Dam steam!! New Setrab Adaptors somemore!!
2 sets just arrived my place yesterday....
Swee hor???
I ordered the new Setrab adaptors for me car too.......the new ones too nice liao.....
kekekekeke
'The Great White'
Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
Is there anyway u can hv those pipes installed w/o goin thru the factory air intake tube?
Coz I think the air flow becomes substantially restricted once those 2 pieces of thick pipes are inserted thru the intake tube.
Is there anyway u can hv those pipes installed w/o goin thru the factory air intake tube?
Coz I think the air flow becomes substantially restricted once those 2 pieces of thick pipes are inserted thru the intake tube.
Racebred
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Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
shaun, yes, the modifications are down to plumbing, and the design of the core. Theoratically it's possible to find the same spec plumbing, then CNC the aluminium cup to the spec, to chiong the technik oil cooler. But intellectual piracy is another matter.
It does cost more, but for ppl who dont mind trading $ for convenience, take the technik unit from wilson or rennsport.
TripleM, ppl with the oil cooler mod should be assumed to have some kind of cone intake already. It does restrict air intake through the front so my setup had intake through the brake ducts.
I have quantitative results from the technik oil cooler to prove that it works, (reduction of 140-150 degrees in 2-3 laps, to about 115-125 degrees in >10 laps continuously.) but unfortunately i do not have trials with off-the-shelf setrab oil coolers. Anyone interested can install one anyways and contribute to the knowledge of this forum's community on whether it really works or not.
shaun, yes, the modifications are down to plumbing, and the design of the core. Theoratically it's possible to find the same spec plumbing, then CNC the aluminium cup to the spec, to chiong the technik oil cooler. But intellectual piracy is another matter.
It does cost more, but for ppl who dont mind trading $ for convenience, take the technik unit from wilson or rennsport.
TripleM, ppl with the oil cooler mod should be assumed to have some kind of cone intake already. It does restrict air intake through the front so my setup had intake through the brake ducts.
I have quantitative results from the technik oil cooler to prove that it works, (reduction of 140-150 degrees in 2-3 laps, to about 115-125 degrees in >10 laps continuously.) but unfortunately i do not have trials with off-the-shelf setrab oil coolers. Anyone interested can install one anyways and contribute to the knowledge of this forum's community on whether it really works or not.
Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
Again, it has nothing to do with a core that has one inlet and one outlet. It has everything to do with the plumbing points and valving (if any). There is no protection for these mechanical systems unless patented, so no worry about piracy and all that. It is perfectly legal unless patented or copy made is 100% the same.
CNC isn't needed to plumb and valve an oil cooler. A manual lathe and mill will do. A tract or even two parallel tracts that switch sometimes are very simple things. If there was no flow previously it was due to either retarded design, or wrong installation. There isn't any magic in a system this basic.
Racebred said:
Again, it has nothing to do with a core that has one inlet and one outlet. It has everything to do with the plumbing points and valving (if any). There is no protection for these mechanical systems unless patented, so no worry about piracy and all that. It is perfectly legal unless patented or copy made is 100% the same.
CNC isn't needed to plumb and valve an oil cooler. A manual lathe and mill will do. A tract or even two parallel tracts that switch sometimes are very simple things. If there was no flow previously it was due to either retarded design, or wrong installation. There isn't any magic in a system this basic.
Racebred
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Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
well, while there isnt any magic involved, it's not that easy for a local workshop to trial and error on some customer's car until some positive flow occurs on any aftermarket oil cooler, and usually they dont have such confidence on self-R&D (on someone else's car), as was fedback to me. I would like to see the day when a local workshop comes across a solution to a worldwide problem, solve it, and begin to market such products to the international market with repeatable performance and reliability. until such time, the customer must either have a lot of faith, or can afford a long downtime to R&D, or buy direct solutions from others who have already achieved it.
well, while there isnt any magic involved, it's not that easy for a local workshop to trial and error on some customer's car until some positive flow occurs on any aftermarket oil cooler, and usually they dont have such confidence on self-R&D (on someone else's car), as was fedback to me. I would like to see the day when a local workshop comes across a solution to a worldwide problem, solve it, and begin to market such products to the international market with repeatable performance and reliability. until such time, the customer must either have a lot of faith, or can afford a long downtime to R&D, or buy direct solutions from others who have already achieved it.
Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
Very well said bro!! U & me the same....we dun have so much time to do R&D....only can read what others have achieved, tracked proven, then 'just do it'!!
Technik guys are dam good....not that they're aerospace or NASA engineers but they do know some stuffs about modding bimmers.....
They're just a small workshop like BVO or J4C but spend more time on R&D stuff that makes bimmers goes faster....
We never regretted getting the Technik cooler rite?? U've proven it in Sepang & that's why I also got 1 for my car.....kekekeke
I was at Technik last month & they have a E46 sedan with a E39 M5 engine in it.......dam steam......and only 2 guys at the max working to get this monster going!! Zolti told me they're gonna SC it with a ASA TM15 charger too...... I almost faint....
hahahahaha
'The Great White'
Racebred said:
Very well said bro!! U & me the same....we dun have so much time to do R&D....only can read what others have achieved, tracked proven, then 'just do it'!!
Technik guys are dam good....not that they're aerospace or NASA engineers but they do know some stuffs about modding bimmers.....
They're just a small workshop like BVO or J4C but spend more time on R&D stuff that makes bimmers goes faster....
We never regretted getting the Technik cooler rite?? U've proven it in Sepang & that's why I also got 1 for my car.....kekekeke
I was at Technik last month & they have a E46 sedan with a E39 M5 engine in it.......dam steam......and only 2 guys at the max working to get this monster going!! Zolti told me they're gonna SC it with a ASA TM15 charger too...... I almost faint....
hahahahaha
'The Great White'
Re: Need advise to buy SETRAB OIl Cooler
..........................it WORKS......................
Keeps my engine below 115degC at track sessions even with my smaller cooler..(But it was a cool day and it was raining.)
I have replaced the original cap Earl's inlet/outlet original JIC tapered joints to Tuas made parallel thread just to shorten its length...no leakage of far. Original blue Nomax Hoses used on heavy machines and Aircraft's hydralics lines capable of 3000psi were used instead of tecnik's fire retardant wrap overs...(yes, I know! Overkill - Looks good)
Coming Soon:
Tecnik cooler kit will replace my self made rojak cooler kit in 2 weeks. Will replace my ugly 90degNPT joints to 45 angled ones from Wilson.
Workshop got no time for R&D??, I R&D myself! I hate going too much into theories and spending too much money for something i can built myself. If it doesnt work, just get wilson to rescue you lor(i've done it before too)....hahahaha
..........................it WORKS......................
Keeps my engine below 115degC at track sessions even with my smaller cooler..(But it was a cool day and it was raining.)
I have replaced the original cap Earl's inlet/outlet original JIC tapered joints to Tuas made parallel thread just to shorten its length...no leakage of far. Original blue Nomax Hoses used on heavy machines and Aircraft's hydralics lines capable of 3000psi were used instead of tecnik's fire retardant wrap overs...(yes, I know! Overkill - Looks good)
Coming Soon:
Tecnik cooler kit will replace my self made rojak cooler kit in 2 weeks. Will replace my ugly 90degNPT joints to 45 angled ones from Wilson.
Workshop got no time for R&D??, I R&D myself! I hate going too much into theories and spending too much money for something i can built myself. If it doesnt work, just get wilson to rescue you lor(i've done it before too)....hahahaha
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