HIGH COURT JUDGE PERSONALLY TEST DRIVES NEW BMW TO SEE IF COMPLAINTS ARE VALID

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A Regional Sales Manager who had high expectations for his brand new $378,100 BMW 550i was disappointed with his purchase after forking out a small fortune for the car and tried to sue the Car Dealership Performance Motors to get his money back complaining that they had misrepresented the car and breached contract.

In order to determine if some of the buyer's complaints were valid, High Court Judge Chan Seng Onn took the car for a test driver personally to see if it really "sounded like a helicopter" as claimed by the buyer.

Among other things, the buyer, Mr Chan Chee Kien, complained that the car was making too much noise from a "propeller sound" a "knocking noise" a "pulsating sound" and more.

The buyer had been demanding a brand new replacement or a full refund for the car which he purchased in 2010.

There were 12 minor defects which he identitied in the first 14 months and he had repeatedly taken the car to the Performance Motors' workshop to get these issues addressed.

In the end, Justice Chan dismissed the complaint explaining that of the 30 complaints raised about the car, 18 of them were either not present or detectable, or they were not actually defects and were instead part of the normal characteristics of the car.

In particular, the plaintiff (the buyer) had complained that the car was excessively noisy.

On this issue, Justice Chan noted that at no point during the sale of the car did the buyer express that he wanted a silent car and at not point did the seller, Performance Motor, indicate such properties.

There had been no misrepresentation at the time of the sale. In the end, he dismissed the complaint and ruled that the buyer was not entitled to a replacement or refund.

In his judgement, Justice Chan explained that it was a difficult decision to make as it was not clear cut. He noted that the 12 actual minor defects may have cumulatively resulted in an unsatisfactory product but it was still ok by a "reasonable person's standards".

He noted that Mr Chan had subjectively high standards and he had sympathy for him as the buyer had clearly forked out a lot of money and therefore expected a flawless product. However, the law looks at the objective satisfactory standard and not what Mr Chan felt personally.
 
Re: HIGH COURT JUDGE PERSONALLY TEST DRIVES NEW BMW TO SEE IF COMPLAINTS ARE VALID

Anyone knows what car does the judge drive ?

Maybe his car's exhaust is so loud that a helicopter sound is nothing to him .....
 
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Judge drives G-powered M5 maybe.
 
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Justice Chan Seng Onn drives a Lexus LS 460
 
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His Lexus also got helicopter sound ah ..... No wonder cannot tell the diff ?
 
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Did you hear the helicopter sound in that particular 550 yourself ?
 
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perhaps the 'helicopter sound' caused by factory installed run flat tires on the 550i
 
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Jason8822;1113626 said:
Did you hear the helicopter sound in that particular 550 yourself ?

No. But pity the complainant - it's like going to PML and cannot replicate the sound. Then the judge says it's normal.

And the judge steady because he can judge if the 550i is ok or not by just driving it around ..... Puts mechanics to shame. Or maybe he had a stethoscope and a diagnostic tool with him......
 
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Sound is subjective as you should have know.
Some ppl have higher tolerance while others have less.
What i am trying to say is maybe owner cannot accept cos he too anal.
Judge is only trying to ..... be fair, or perhaps getting a ride in a 550 which is really rare in sgp.
 
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Kudos to this judge for actually taking the trouble to test the car. Now we know the only time a judge will get his behind off his throne is to transfer it into a Bimmer seat. :D

If anything untoward had occurred while he was "testing" the car, the hilarity would've been immense. Luckily everything turned out OK.
 
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I am waiting for someone to take PML /BMW to court over FC claims since this forum loves comparing FC...
 
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i saw a 760Li sitting behind Munich auto...sibeh sart
 
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I'm just waiting for 550i fire-sale by disgruntled owner....
 
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The 550i has a V8 engine that is much noisier than BMW's well regarded in-line 6. He should have bought the 535i with it's silky smooth straight 6.

I tested the V8 650i and the in-line 6 640i and the 650i was very much louder and noisier than the 640i. It wasn't a whole lot faster and it felt much heavier and not so quick to turn in. Hence I picked the 640i. The turbocharged straight 6 is blisteringly quick and I have never found myself thinking I need more power.

Some people prefer a loud rumbling engine that wake the neighbours but I think Mr Chan would have preferred a quieter engine. The SA should have recommended the 535i. Guess they just want to make more commission.
 
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Welch;1113719 said:
The 550i has a V8 engine that is much noisier than BMW's well regarded in-line 6. He should have bought the 535i with it's silky smooth straight 6.

I tested the V8 650i and the in-line 6 640i and the 650i was very much louder and noisier than the 640i. It wasn't a whole lot faster and it felt much heavier and not so quick to turn in. Hence I picked the 640i. The turbocharged straight 6 is blisteringly quick and I have never found myself thinking I need more power.

Surprised but glad to hear that
 
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MW;1113586 said:
Justice Chan Seng Onn drives a Lexus LS 460

Dunno why I see many govt personnel driving Lexus. Seems fairly popular. The senior folks tend to drive Toyota.
 
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because they don't want to be "seen" driving big conti like bmw/merc/audi ... that's the main "reason" (i speculate)

boysdontcryy;1123741 said:
Dunno why I see many govt personnel driving Lexus. Seems fairly popular. The senior folks tend to drive Toyota.
 
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You're right. I think tongues will wag otherwise.
 

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