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Green Plus Fuel Catalyst
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yendor
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Hi Shaun,
Thanks, will try and get some data from CP to post here. He went to the Motor Image Dyno to get some figures crunched out. Why the MI dyno? well basically so that it would be impartial. Hang on..
Sam, sure see you there.
To anybody else, offer still stands. I'll be there with a big ice lemon tea.... cheers.
Yendor
yendor;272545 said:
That's cool Rodney, but before anything else is posted and I'm mistaken as constantly putting down stuff just for the sake of doing so, I will repeat what I've mentioned in much older posts (still on record), that without all fluid temps maintained (engine and diffs), and the heat generated in tires, etc. dynos can't be used to test small gains where variance covers gain. Anyone that has knowledge of trends as pulls progress, can arrange test order to yield favorable result. This is what I meant in earlier post on this thread.
Unless CP's test is of a different nature, which I don't see how given the nature of chassis dynos, then the same principles apply. This is why labs are labs because they run A-B-A tests, minimize as much peripheral as possible (ie. single cylinder, no driveline, engine dyno), and stabilize and log factors that remain (block, head, oil and water temps). Which is why in small gain things (say 5hp or less) I don't even try to test on chassis dynos because the variance usually covers it or makes up too large a proportion of measured gain or loss.
At the other end of the spectrum, big loss/gain changes are fine to run non-precise tests on and still reach a largely true conclusion.
adroit
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I was driving a Getz and now a 1.4l Fiat Grande Punto.
I have been pouring Greenplus into every single tank i top up since a year or so back.
I do it simply because it works. Maybe with my small engines, i feel the difference.
I too had to go without it for 2 tanks recently cause i didnt have time to pick up new stocks, and i initially tot it was ok to not have it.
But when i finally got my fresh doses and start to pour again, i realised what i have been missing the last 1000km!
Which science theory supported your choice of buying a BMW and not a VW? I am sure science didnt really play a part.
If it feels good and works, then its worth it!
saifywaify
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haha welcome darrell...
adroit;273044 said:
Hi Darryl, long time no see. How are you and Jason? How is the army treating you? Do you know Rodney through the military? Do you still have your Adroit?
The science of better mass distribution, better NVH, of superior drive through drivetrain format, steering feel, chassis stiffness, all of which is quantifiable, plays major part in many choosing BMW over VW and the like.
Quantifiable difference = true change
Quantifiable difference + no perceived difference = small but true change
No quantifiable difference + perceived differences = probable placebo effect (no change)
Unquantified difference + perceived difference by large majority in double blind test = probable true change, awaiting quantification
No quantifiable difference + no perceived difference by half or more of double blind test participants = Snake oil
Condition is that the tests and double blind tests are to the proper standards. They are both easy to skew and so lots of attention must be paid to detail.
adroit
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How did Shaun know so much about me?
Haha.
Seriously, i am saying this about Greenplus because it makes my small car work better, and its not a illusion or some perceived gain, cause even when i put a unknowing guy who drives the same car in my driver seat, he will stare at me with some funny expression and ask, 'WHAT DID YOU DO TO YOUR CAR!?!?!?!?!'
If we have to go thru so much to decide whether spending $32 is worth it, then i say the effort is going to be worth more than that.
I think the product may work as it claims.
How Biofriendly Green Plus Works
I seen the link above and its plausible as there are indeed catalyst that does that. Although I am not sure if its really effective since our regular fuels ought to contain similar catalyst as well.
Also, Centurion claims that its mainly IPA. Although I have not seen greenplus myself, I don't think its the same as those used in cleaners etc. Such products contains a high amt of water. I think its more of anhydrous type with very low water content.
Perhaps someone could get a sample and send it to the labs for analysis. Then we will know its composition better.
Btw, ethanol is mainly used as an octane booster agent. Also, ethanol burns better than regular petrol. Thus I am not surprise if IPA added to fuel causes it to burn better.
Darryl, I've never even considered Green Plus for myself, only principle in general. It applies not just to one product, vendor, person. Discussion of principle is always worth it - maybe not for the participants (time), but for anyone who has yet to think it through, or for the community.
