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FS : Brand New UUC RK2 Stainless Steel Gear Knob

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wilman2772

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Brand new UUC RK2 Gear knob in stainless steel & with OEM BMW Tri-color insert shift pattern for sale!

Only suits manual cars.

BMW_Motorsport_pattern.jpg


Only S$200

p.s. : The knob is freaking heavy man!!!

Cheers

'The Great White'
 
Re: FS : Brand New UUC RK2 Stainless Steel Gear Knob

wilman2772 said:
Brand new UUC RK2 Gear knob in stainless steel & with OEM BMW Tri-color insert shift pattern for sale!

Only suits manual cars.

BMW_Motorsport_pattern.jpg


Only S$200

p.s. : The knob is freaking heavy man!!!

Cheers

'The Great White'
heavy where got good? i thot lighter is better?
 
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MRacer77 said:
heavy where got good? i thot lighter is better?

Toot! For manual shifter, the heavier the better!

The weight on top will let u shift the gear with very little effort......

Alot of manual drivers prefers heavier knobs....

kekekeke

'Clan Master'
 
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MRacer77 said:
heavy where got good? i thot lighter is better?

Yup!

More mass = more inertia = higher force required to shift. It is a small amount, but physics still dictates. If the opposite was true we would find shift knobs made from lead or depleted uranium.

Besides.. in performance cars they try to make everything as light as possible.. even with minimum weight rules, they still go under it and then place very dense ballast in optimal locations.
 
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MRacer77 said:
heavy where got good? i thot lighter is better?

Bro, Dun listen to me yah! I'm toking kok!!

We'll tok over a glass of wine at bala?? :woottt:

'Clan Master'
 
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Well, it really depends on the type of tranny, car and driving style I guess. Was just scanning thru some shift knobs and here are some of the comments:

1) Mach V Motorsports "Balky shifter? Sticky synchros? Bash the gears with this heavyweight shift knob from Razo. We don't know if it's made of depleted uranium, or what, but this knob weighs more than any we've ever seen. It's a whopping 300 grams, which comes out to almost 3/4 of a pound! In Japan, these weighty shift knobs are popular for drifting. For the U.S., we think these might be the right choice for some of the less cooperative trannies, or if you just want to have a feeling of authority when you shift.


2) "Here's a shift knob choice we love. It's heavy -- we haven't put it on the postal scale yet, but we'd guess it's six ounces"

3) "The stock shift knob is weighted for a reason. changing the knob usually results in grinding 3rd when speed shifting. i suggest using the stock knob on raceing days and aftermarket on those days you will not be speed shifting.

4) Greddy Shift knob "Usually in stock and ready to ship.each shift. Because the shift knob is twice as heavy as most knobs, it gives more precise shifting and a balanced feel. Most conventional knobs weight between .30 to .60 lbs. The Counter-Weight Shift Knob weights in at .85 lbs. The shift knob comes with 3 different shift badges (Silver on Silver, Silver on Black, and Black on White). The standard 5 speed shift pattern with a Black Chrome Plated Finish will match your interior perfectly. The heavy duty construction gives you that classic look. The ergonomic design is 44.5mm in diameter and 52mm in overall height.

I will let someone else be the devil's advocate for this argument. Both are equally valid in thier own rights. Personally, I would prefer the heavy ones. Get the hard and loud authoratative"TUD TUD" "TUD TUD" feel everytime shifting is in progress!!! :) This knob looks delicious!!! Too bad PML sell only steppies! :(
 
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Ah.. key! :D

BlackStealth said:
1) Mach V Motorsports "Balky shifter? Sticky synchros? Bash the gears with this heavyweight shift knob from Razo. We don't know if it's made of depleted uranium, or what, but this knob weighs more than any we've ever seen. It's a whopping 300 grams, which comes out to almost 3/4 of a pound! In Japan, these weighty shift knobs are popular for drifting. For the U.S., we think these might be the right choice for some of the less cooperative trannies, or if you just want to have a feeling of authority when you shift.

3) "The stock shift knob is weighted for a reason. changing the knob usually results in grinding 3rd when speed shifting. i suggest using the stock knob on raceing days and aftermarket on those days you will not be speed shifting.

4) Greddy Shift knob "Usually in stock and ready to ship.each shift. Because the shift knob is twice as heavy as most knobs, it gives more precise shifting and a balanced feel. Most conventional knobs weight between .30 to .60 lbs. The Counter-Weight Shift Knob weights in at .85 lbs. The shift knob comes with 3 different shift badges (Silver on Silver, Silver on Black, and Black on White). The standard 5 speed shift pattern with a Black Chrome Plated Finish will match your interior perfectly. The heavy duty construction gives you that classic look. The ergonomic design is 44.5mm in diameter and 52mm in overall height.

I will let someone else be the devil's advocate for this argument. Both are equally valid in thier own rights i would say. Personally, I would prefer the heavy ones. Get the hard and loud authoratative"TUD TUD" "TUD TUD" feel everything I change gears!!!

Exactly! It is like my recent foldable knife purchase. Common sense said to buy the lightweight composite handled model, but instead I bought the heavy brushed steel handle version just because I like hefting its weight and the impression of solidness. This is counter to function, but I still did it because of the emotional side of me wanting to feel good.

Regarding the comment on drifting.. that's where they retain the long shifters to give higher shift "resolution" (4-2 [across and up]) and yet have the option of reaching lower down along the shifter (reduced ratio) to give the ability to flick into other gears (4-3 [straight up]). You can see the guy in the UEO style drift video I posted recently, carrying out this type of shifting. In the latter situation mass concentration at the end of the shifter would help.

But then nearly all of us are not drifting. We are grip driving where inputs are calm and controlled, shift strokes optimized (using the actual knob at all times), and hopefully gearboxes functioning properly. If the transmission is functioning properly, the driver is precise, then mass becomes the enemy.

Ok.. I don't wish to take this thread too far off topic. Said enough on this somewhat inconsequential topic.

Cheers
 
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Wilman
Knob looks swee man....

Actualy I tend to agree that a slightly higher mass on the knob will give a better feel for gear changes in manual cars and it should work better with a shorter short shift kit...

U r converting your ride to manual har bro? :lol2:
 
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wilman2772 said:
Bro, Dun listen to me yah! I'm toking kok!!


'Clan Master'

Great white, My car is heavy so i prefer heavy knob...
 
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Hymics said:
Great white, My car is heavy so i prefer heavy knob...

Don't know about you bro but I know girls like my heavy knob.........hur hur hur

End of OT.
 
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rodders said:
Don't know about you bro but I know girls like my heavy knob.........hur hur hur

End of OT.

Lucky with ur heavy knob u dun walk funi like MW.. opps.... hahahaha.

Time for u to go tampanies often to release so nt heavy.. kekekek

OK.. EOT from me too...
 
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wilman2772 said:
Bro, Dun listen to me yah! I'm toking kok!!

We'll tok over a glass of wine at bala?? :woottt:

'Clan Master'
bro, will talk to you more over drinks soon.
 
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So, I still don't know if heavy knob are better for speed shifting. But my experience with manual cars so far as told me that the lighter the knob, the quicker I am able to shift. The lighter knobs sort of force you to be more accurate, but you are faster... I changed a few shift knobs last time and although the heavy ones feel better, they are slower to shift. I find that I can't just flick my wrist to shift gears and would actually require more effort. To each his own I guess...
 
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I have this sinking feeling that my contention will be controversial, even provocative to some. But since this is an open forum, let's be liberal about the discussion. Call me a engineering idiot or mod whore, but some issues are long suppressed for fear of scrutiny. At the end, it sort of violates the fundamental rights to be heard, if only a one-sided argument based on a unitary dimension is voiced.

Is weight really such important in every mod we undertake, as some authorities vehemently purported?

Let's assume physics and performance absolutely dictates our mod doctrine. Why then are we buying heavy cars like BMWs in the first place? Why are we buying heavy rims like Hamann? Is it a white elephant subject to talk about heavier tyres like SO3 or bodykits? Are we talking nonsense when we talk about mods that add weight - for instance ICE or even 18" wheels? I know nuts about the precise weight factor, but I do know that these are not the best - if weight is solely the guiding factor.

It is confusing to some, presumably not all, that certain things we do or mod are not conducive to minimising weight. We used power-to-weight ratio as a punchline in our discussion, but would it not be better to start off with a lighter chassis with higher bhp? Say on a per-dollar spent, get an Evo VIII MR than a E46 in the first place? So am I wrong in the first place to get a heavier 4-potter, running on heavier rims, compounded by additional weight in ICE and bodykit? Damn. I should have bought a Jap Turbo car in the first place. With 17" rims. Forget about going 18" or 19". Dun tell me about 19" forged wheels. I want bucket seats. Forget about memory seats. In fact, I should be stripping off the seats. Why am I sticking to a poor power-to-weight-ratio bimmer?

The reason is simple. Because weight is not entirely my benchmark valuation criteria.

For some, the BMW denotes driver's feel, luxury, or even performance. For me, and hopefully more, the modding process takes more than just minimising weight and increasing performance. It entails the aesthetic component, and doing so with an element of taste or fierce-factor at a reasonable cost. That's why there are forumers going for 19" wheels on a E46 6-potter. That's why there are forumers installing heavy ICE systems. That's why there are forumers interested in after market bodykits. And so on.

They want something else. A different dimension. Call it the chio factor.

What has it gotta do with weight? Absolutely nothing.

Do what you want to do to your car. Obviously, the assumption is that you know what you want, and why are you doing it. If you are doing it because of visual appeal, then be it. On some mods, you can hardly reach a compromise between performance and pure aesthetics.

Came across this article that suggests that lighter weight might not necessarily be a plus point. "In the past, automakers have relied on weight reduction to boost fuel efficiency, but have warned that lighter, smaller vehicles pose greater safety risks to drivers and occupants in crashes. "This confirms that downsizing and downweighting vehicles has an effect on safety," said Eron Shosteck, spokesman for the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers."" I am not a rocket scientist, but I cannot totally disagree with that view.

http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosinsider/0310/15/b01-298332.htm

We can go down to physics and kinetics and argue a hell lot on the few-hundred-grammes difference between different gear knobs, but I seriously think that the few hundred grammes amounted to simply...... a feel.

Sure, we could talk about that, but do we need to go down to those specifics, when all we wanted to know is...... simply ......

...... Is this mod chio? Swee boh?

So, back to the thread. Perhaps my brother Wilson should have disclaimed himself by stating that his comment is (strictly) a driver's feel that "for manual shifter, the heavier the better! The weight on top will let u shift the gear with very little effort...... Alot of manual drivers prefers heavier knobs...." Not a claim to be backed by data and statistics. Much the same as Ryan commenting that the butt feel for the pulley-installation is better. Afterall, we are mere drivers, not engineers. Nor rocket scientists for that matter. Just few car enthusiasts who enjoy our cars.

Or perhaps the thread should not be a "For Sale" topic at all, given that our ignorance on the precision science of auto mechanics required a knowledge filter or some scrutinising policing force. Perhaps any item(s) on sale requires a clearance from a self-acclaimed independent party with absolute neutrality to serve as a protection for the forumers who might be potential buyers, since we are perceived to be unable to govern ourselves as rational individual consumers. Pardon my ignorance here.

Am I making sense here?

Or am I just a layman driver who knows nuts and should therefore remain silent?
 
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kenntona said:
I have this sinking feeling that my contention will be controversial, even provocative to some. But since this is an open forum, let's be liberal about the discussion. Call me a engineering idiot or mod whore, but some issues are long suppressed for fear of scrutiny. At the end, it sort of violates the fundamental rights to be heard, if only a one-sided argument based on a unitary dimension is voiced.

Is weight really such important in every mod we undertake, as some authorities vehemently purported?

Let's assume physics and performance absolutely dictates our mod doctrine. Why then are we buying heavy cars like BMWs in the first place? Why are we buying heavy rims like Hamann? Is it a white elephant subject to talk about heavier tyres like SO3 or bodykits? Are we talking nonsense when we talk about mods that add weight - for instance ICE or even 18" wheels? I know nuts about the precise weight factor, but I do know that these are not the best - if weight is solely the guiding factor.

It is confusing to some, presumably not all, that certain things we do or mod are not conducive to minimising weight. We used power-to-weight ratio as a punchline in our discussion, but would it not be better to start off with a lighter chassis with higher bhp? Say on a per-dollar spent, get an Evo VIII MR than a E46 in the first place? So am I wrong in the first place to get a heavier 4-potter, running on heavier rims, compounded by additional weight in ICE and bodykit? Damn. I should have bought a Jap Turbo car in the first place. With 17" rims. Forget about going 18" or 19". Dun tell me about 19" forged wheels. I want bucket seats. Forget about memory seats. In fact, I should be stripping off the seats. Why am I sticking to a poor power-to-weight-ratio bimmer?

The reason is simple. Because weight is not entirely my benchmark valuation criteria.

For some, the BMW denotes driver's feel, luxury, or even performance. For me, and hopefully more, the modding process takes more than just minimising weight and increasing performance. It entails the aesthetic component, and doing so with an element of taste or fierce-factor at a reasonable cost. That's why there are forumers going for 19" wheels on a E46 6-potter. That's why there are forumers installing heavy ICE systems. That's why there are forumers interested in after market bodykits. And so on.

They want something else. A different dimension. Call it the chio factor.

What has it gotta do with weight? Absolutely nothing.

Do what you want to do to your car. Obviously, the assumption is that you know what you want, and why are you doing it. If you are doing it because of visual appeal, then be it. On some mods, you can hardly reach a compromise between performance and pure aesthetics.

Came across this article that suggests that lighter weight might not necessarily be a plus point. "In the past, automakers have relied on weight reduction to boost fuel efficiency, but have warned that lighter, smaller vehicles pose greater safety risks to drivers and occupants in crashes. "This confirms that downsizing and downweighting vehicles has an effect on safety," said Eron Shosteck, spokesman for the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers."" I am not a rocket scientist, but I cannot totally disagree with that view.

http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosinsider/0310/15/b01-298332.htm

We can go down to physics and kinetics and argue a hell lot on the few-hundred-grammes difference between different gear knobs, but I seriously think that the few hundred grammes amounted to simply...... a feel.

Sure, we could talk about that, but do we need to go down to those specifics, when all we wanted to know is...... simply ......

...... Is this mod chio? Swee boh?

So, back to the thread. Perhaps my brother Wilson should have disclaimed himself by stating that his comment is (strictly) a driver's feel that "for manual shifter, the heavier the better! The weight on top will let u shift the gear with very little effort...... Alot of manual drivers prefers heavier knobs...." Not a claim to be backed by data and statistics. Much the same as Ryan commenting that the butt feel for the pulley-installation is better. Afterall, we are mere drivers, not engineers. Nor rocket scientists for that matter. Just few car enthusiasts who enjoy our cars.

Or perhaps the thread should not be a "For Sale" topic at all, given that our ignorance on the precision science of auto mechanics required a knowledge filter or some scrutinising policing force. Perhaps any item(s) on sale requires a clearance from a self-acclaimed independent party with absolute neutrality to serve as a protection for the forumers who might be potential buyers, since we are perceived to be unable to govern ourselves as rational individual consumers. Pardon my ignorance here.

Am I making sense here?

Or am I just a layman driver who knows nuts and should therefore remain silent?
wah cheem... but I see our point as well
 
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MRacer77 said:
wah cheem... but I see our point as well
Damn, I'd thought we should lose some weight to begin with...... solely on performance talks, ceteris paribus......
 
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kenntona said:
Damn, I'd thought we should lose some weight to begin with...... solely on performance talks, ceteris paribus......

Ken, too much mass on the human body not only hurts its performance, but also the look factor that you are so concerned about. :chinese:
 
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Shaun said:
Ken, too much mass on the human body not only hurts its performance, but also the look factor that you are so concerned about. :chinese:
I'd know. Thanks for the concern.

Thankfully, I do not have a fark-face to begin with. And I can always lose weight.

Take care, brudder.
 
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kenntona said:
I'd know. Thanks for the concern.

Thankfully, I do not have a fark-face to start with. And I can lose weight. Take care, brudder.


Hahahha......damn funny, from car knob weight/mass to human weight then fark-face. :lol2:
Can you enlighten me where can I see and get the fark face? Please, torlong and kum xia in advance...
I want to make the fark-face as my avatar cos get more attention than Deep Purple, Led Zappelin, Uriap Heep :yummie:
 
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Guys,

Again..Please do not post un-neccessary comments. Saying things in jest may not be understood by either parties and will lead to a flame war.

Please bring any grievances out of the forum. You can use PM or email.

THanks.
 
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