EBC Red Stuff Ceramic Pads

[yendor]

Guys, I am posting this on behalf of UM2.

UM2 is offering to bring in Red Stuff Ceramic Pads for you cars at about $240 per axle set excl fitting. The Red Stuff Ceramic pads use copper in the friction compound formulation to help reduce the amount of heat build up in the pad when auto cars come to a stop. It is this heat build up that does the damage to the rotors. The Green Stuff pads with their kelvar compound offers a better grip on initial application of the brakes compared to the Red Stuff Ceramic but it also runs a lot hotter as Kelvar is also a good thermal insulator.

The Red Stuff Ceramic does produce some dust but it is about half of the original BMW pads.

I personally have used EBC Greens in my VW Passat and they never failed me. The only issue that i had was that after a hard stop for the lights, i would apply the hand brake while leaving the car in D. This allowed the pads to ease away from the discs and reduce heat soak damage.

Is anyone interested?

Cheers

 

[Whisky_Tango]

Re: EBC Red Stuff Ceramic Pads

$240 per axle set means a pair rite?

How abt the wear rate on the rotors using these pads?

Thanx

 

[yendor]

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Yes Bro, $240 for 4 pads for the front. Another $240 for the rear. The exact price cannot confirm now cos shipping gonna be shared.

According to CP, the Red Stuff Ceramics are also gentle on the discs. Expect 2-3 sets of pads for each set of discs.

There is 1 full set on the way here.... for an Orient Blue 320i.......wink wink.... but the owner paying close to $650 ( dumb huh???)

Cheers bro...

 

[Whisky_Tango]

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Thanx bro...

Forgot to ask earlier... what is the red and green heat range?

Paiseh

 

[yendor]

Re: EBC Red Stuff Ceramic Pads

Bro, Green Stuff are 0.46u and 1000F
Red Stuff are 0.33u and 1380F

Cheers

 

[Whisky_Tango]

Re: EBC Red Stuff Ceramic Pads

Bro, Green Stuff are 0.46u and 1000F
Red Stuff are 0.33u and 1380F

Cheers

Wah lau... I dun understand imperial unit.

Is 0.46u is the surface roughness?

Kindly convert to deg C pls.......

 

[yendor]

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Wah lau... I dun understand imperial unit.

Is 0.46u is the surface roughness?

Kindly convert to deg C pls.......

Bro
1000F is 540'C
1380F is 750'C

u is the co-efficient of friction. usual pads run from 0.3-0.4u. u is calculated from the amount of rotational friction force the surfaces can generate in proportion to the clamping force.

Cheers dude

 

[TripleM]

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Think the formula is
C = 5/9 * (F-32)

1000F shud be ard 537C
while
1380 is ard 748C

 

[Whisky_Tango]

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Bro
1000F is 540'C
1380F is 750'C

u is the co-efficient of friction. usual pads run from 0.3-0.4u. u is calculated from the amount of rotational friction force the surfaces can generate in proportion to the clamping force.

Cheers dude

Oh yes...

why the higher temp pads has less U?

Comparing the two, which has better grip?

 

[yendor]

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The grippier pad is the green stuff. Those buggers really give you blue black marks on your shoulders where the seat belts are. But ultimately they are a little hard to modulate. I drove a friend's airtrack turbo with red stuff ceramics. I think they are easier to modulate before a corner. If you track then go for the red stuff ceramics.

 

[Whisky_Tango]

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Thanx for clarifying...

Let you noe when time comes...

 

[TripleM]

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That Red stuff is probably semi race pads so the grip is alot more optimal only when hot (eg during tracking)

Yendor, if let's say that is the case, there is a probability that the Red Stuff might not work that well when cold?

 

[yendor]

Re: EBC Red Stuff Ceramic Pads

That Red stuff is probably semi race pads so the grip is alot more optimal only when hot (eg during tracking)

Yendor, if let's say that is the case, there is a probability that the Red Stuff might not work that well when cold?

From their literature, the cold is 0.3u and above 400F is rises to 0.33u. Need to really own the pads before i can give FR on these pads.

 

[TripleM]

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Thanks dude....
Now, goin to sleep liao.....

 

[yendor]

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Jack,

Since when you change to this avatar.... very coy looking leh...not like your rides.

 

[R2D]

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Gents, I will be able to get some EBC pads with reduced shipping costs soon. Is anybody interested in trying out the EBC pads? Do let me know before the end of this week. (before 16 Sep please)

Thank you
CP

 

[yendor]

Re: EBC Red Stuff Ceramic Pads

Woo Hoo.... my pads are now in. Red Stuff Ceramics for front and Green stuff for rears. Initial bite is definitely better than stock pads. Dunno about the dust issue. No squeals whatsoever but the best part is that it is very easy to modulate the brakes. I would dare say that there is a definite improvement in braking force.

Will post more after more usage...

Cheers

 

[TripleM]

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Now, go and put ur name down for the Sepang track day on 14 Oct...........swee2x..

 

[yendor]

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Driving skills not there yet... besides tyres are getting really expensive. Read the tyres thread and did some maths... knn 4 tyres gonna cost me about $1K+ Almost pengsan...

Besides i am trying to install a greddy e-manage into the ECU to tune both AFR and ignition. Gonna cost me another $1-2k.....

I shall cross my fingers and pray for 4-D or toto grp 2 prize.... hahah