Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

[wt_know]

E90 320d - 177bhp/4,000rpm & 350Nm/1,750rpm, inline-4

E90 320i - 156bhp/6,400rpm & 200Nm/3,600rpm, inline-4

E90 325i - 218bhp/6,500rpm & 250Nm/2,750rpm, inline-6

I presume 320d is not a turbocharged engine right.
It's a standard 4-pot but diesel engine and it can pump out 350Nm at very low 1,750 rpm. Isn't this is a great engine ?
Why is it not available in S'pore huh ?

a. if it's available in EU, it certainly pass the EU emmission standard right

b. diesel is cheaper than petrol

 

[jinooi]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

you can have it if you indent it from PML. takes a bit of time though...

question is - are you willing to pay the road tax?

 

[wt_know]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

ok. i miss out that part as i never own a diesel car. the road tax is really :hmmidont:

For Diesel-Driven Cars

- Special tax is payable in addition to the road tax.

- For a non-Euro IV diesel car, the current special tax is 6 times of the road tax of an equivalent petrol-driven vehicle

- For a Euro IV diesel car, the special tax is 4 times the road tax of an equivalent petrol-driven car

you can have it if you indent it from PML. takes a bit of time though...

question is - are you willing to pay the road tax?

 

[futron.sim]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

The diesel BMWs are very powerful and awesome machine to drive. The 530d is a big mean machine....As you have mentioned, the downside is the road tax here.... sucks big time......

some people only care about their own pockets... thats why we hardly have diesel cars here.... They are now producing less pollution than many petrol cars and even better FC...

 

[wt_know]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

agree. gone are the days that diesel car emit black smoke.

The diesel BMWs are very powerful and awesome machine to drive. The 530d is a big mean machine....As you have mentioned, the downside is the road tax here.... sucks big time......

some people only care about their own pockets... thats why we hardly have diesel cars here.... They are now producing less pollution than many petrol cars and even better FC...

 

[Deadkookaburra]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

have a look at 335d's torque.

 

[davidtch]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

wt_know, modern diesel engine relies on turbo to extract the max torque. For IL-4 diesel, there are 3 variance:
118d/318d: Single turbo. 143hp@4k. 300nm@1.75k.
120d/320d: VTG. 177hp@4k. 350nm@1.75k.
123d: 1 big & 1 small. 204hp@4.4k. 400nm@2k.

However, it is not economically viable to use diesel car in Sg unless the owner is salesman. To breakeven the diesel surcharge, we are looking @ driving 30k/annum.

 

[davidtch]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

some people only care about their own pockets... thats why we hardly have diesel cars here.... They are now producing less pollution than many petrol cars and even better FC...

The only contentious issue up to Euro IV compliance vehicle is PM25 emission. Need to wait for Euro V compliance vehicle to resolve it.

 

[wt_know]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

wow ... it's a freaking 580Nm

have a look at 335d's torque.

 

[Slater]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

is it true that for diesel cars its the surge in power is available only from say 0 to 100km/h? there after the power curve just plateu's?

 

[tatsit]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

i've seen a 520d on the roads before, with bmw's efficient dynamics decal on it.

seriously, the govt should consider removing the special tax, its killing the environment.

 

[leebmer]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

maybe by then (say it takes a few years to review this diesel tax)..the hybrid or pure electrical models could have flooded the market..

 

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[tatsit]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

maybe by then (say it takes a few years to review this diesel tax)..the hybrid or pure electrical models could have flooded the market..

yeah man.. bmw came out with the hybrid version, said to have same performance as M3

what is the tax like for hybrid cars? i heard have to pay tax for both the engines

 

[Jason8822]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

yeah man.. bmw came out with the hybrid version, said to have same performance as M3

what is the tax like for hybrid cars? i heard have to pay tax for both the engines

Quite complicated ...

here you go : Welcome to Land Transport Authority

 

[bimmer-corfu]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

E90 320d - 177bhp/4,000rpm & 350Nm/1,750rpm, inline-4

E90 320i - 156bhp/6,400rpm & 200Nm/3,600rpm, inline-4

E90 325i - 218bhp/6,500rpm & 250Nm/2,750rpm, inline-6

I presume 320d is not a turbocharged engine right.
It's a standard 4-pot but diesel engine and it can pump out 350Nm at very low 1,750 rpm. Isn't this is a great engine ?
Why is it not available in S'pore huh ?

a. if it's available in EU, it certainly pass the EU emmission standard right

b. diesel is cheaper than petrol

In Europe E90 320i petrol - 170bhp/6700rpm & 210Nm/4250rpm, inline-4

 

[wt_know]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

i know. i definitely can make some good use of the additional 14bhp and 10Nm but sadly the engine only available in Europe unless we get a PI to get it to Singapore

In Europe E90 320i petrol - 170bhp/6700rpm & 210Nm/4250rpm, inline-4

 

[TobyNik]

Re: Diesel vs Petrol Engine Torque

i know. i definitely can make some good use of the additional 14bhp and 10Nm but sadly the engine only available in Europe unless we get a PI to get it to Singapore

This issue has been discussed a few times here before.

Apparently this DI 170BHP variant of the 2.0L petrol engine cannot run well and proper with our SG fuel because of the high sulphur content in our fuel......

But I understand one of our members here (cabdriver, I think) is running this engine in his 320i E93.....so how true is the above claim?:verysad:

Can someone please verify this?