Who wants to be Millionaire!

rodders

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This has been making the rounds.



If you didn't already know, our office holders receive pensions. Yes, a sum of money after they quit for the rest of their lives.

It's in the government statutes here - PARLIAMENTARY PENSIONS ACT

Who is an office holder? - The term office holder includes the Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister, Speaker, Senior Minister, Minister, Senior Minister of State, Minister of State, Mayor, Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Parliamentary Secretary or Political Secretary.

How much? - Depending of length of service, office holders can get a maximum of 2/3 of their annual last drawn salary as an annual pension. For example, PM Lee earns S$3.87m a year now, will get at least S$2.58m a year when he retires. Mah Bow Tan will get at least S$1.8m a year. Vivian Balakrishnan will get S$800k for his 9 years in ministerial office if he retires this year.

Pension lumpsum - Pensions can be paid out in lumpsum if the office holder retiree so chooses. For this purpose the annual pension sum payable is multiplied by a 'prescribed commutation factor' to be decided by the President. Someone who sent an email out about this reckons this number to be 14.6. So if a minister's annual salary is S$2m when he retires, he can ask for S$29.2m in one go.

Taxes on pension - None. See government statutes INCOME TAX ACT section (h)

What about the rest of the civil service? - The rest of the civil service was converted away from the pension scheme to CPF some time ago. So ministerial office is only civil service position in SG that allows for pensions now.

So what's the problem? - After the facts, this is an opinion - These guys already are the highest paid politicians in the world. Seriously, it's a lot of money. Aren't they also saving up for their retirement like the rest of us? We private sector folks will get nothing when we retire (hopefully). MM has encouraged us to keep on working into our 60s and 70s - is it so that our continuing tax payments would fund their pensions? Talk about skewing the rich-poor gap. I'm not cool with it.
 
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Interesting to know but what is the point with this article ? The author exhibits emotional issues and lacks self control..........



rodders;640456 said:
This has been making the rounds.



If you didn't already know, our office holders receive pensions. Yes, a sum of money after they quit for the rest of their lives.

It's in the government statutes here - PARLIAMENTARY PENSIONS ACT

Who is an office holder? - The term office holder includes the Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister, Speaker, Senior Minister, Minister, Senior Minister of State, Minister of State, Mayor, Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Parliamentary Secretary or Political Secretary.

How much? - Depending of length of service, office holders can get a maximum of 2/3 of their annual last drawn salary as an annual pension. For example, PM Lee earns S$3.87m a year now, will get at least S$2.58m a year when he retires. Mah Bow Tan will get at least S$1.8m a year. Vivian Balakrishnan will get S$800k for his 9 years in ministerial office if he retires this year.

Pension lumpsum - Pensions can be paid out in lumpsum if the office holder retiree so chooses. For this purpose the annual pension sum payable is multiplied by a 'prescribed commutation factor' to be decided by the President. Someone who sent an email out about this reckons this number to be 14.6. So if a minister's annual salary is S$2m when he retires, he can ask for S$29.2m in one go.

Taxes on pension - None. See government statutes INCOME TAX ACT section (h)

What about the rest of the civil service? - The rest of the civil service was converted away from the pension scheme to CPF some time ago. So ministerial office is only civil service position in SG that allows for pensions now.

So what's the problem? - After the facts, this is an opinion - These guys already are the highest paid politicians in the world. Seriously, it's a lot of money. Aren't they also saving up for their retirement like the rest of us? We private sector folks will get nothing when we retire (hopefully). MM has encouraged us to keep on working into our 60s and 70s - is it so that our continuing tax payments would fund their pensions? Talk about skewing the rich-poor gap. I'm not cool with it.
 
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Author got any dyno chart to proof the figures stated in the article are accurate? :D
 
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Writer has DST so totally in control during dyno. Too bad he has no witnesses to back him up.
 
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gr8golf88;640462 said:
Author got any dyno chart to proof the figures stated in the article are accurate? :D

The writer would also feel better in a planned economy .................
 
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rodders my English no good, cannot understand well. Got cartoon?
 
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C3P0;640529 said:
rodders my English no good, cannot understand well. Got cartoon?

If your engrand is not good, then you shouldn't be in this forum.:biggun:
 
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rodders;640550 said:
If your engrand is not good, then you shouldn't be in this forum.:biggun:

+1 robot wake up la, those chinese perfectly simple & ok
 
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C3P0;640529 said:
rodders my English no good, cannot understand well. Got cartoon?

Members can get this button from the North Bridge Road gift shop.
 
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If the article is dyno true, Not just the MPs, i think those SAF officers in the 70's or 80's, still getting their huge pension, if alive.
My times most officer took partial or lump sum. One took lump sum & passed away 6mths later. But again, SAF pension i reckon unless u 2 stars then got millions.

I served 9yrs get my so call partial CPF . . Cb
 
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the article too short and no technical jargons. not impressive!!
failed before dyno
 
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I'm not pro or against any party but essentially, this article is flawed. The Act says a maximum of 2/3 so using words like at least $XXX is wrong.

To begin with, I have no qualms about them getting the money. If I pay you these sum to handle the angry Singaporeans, would you?

rodders;640456 said:
This has been making the rounds.



If you didn't already know, our office holders receive pensions. Yes, a sum of money after they quit for the rest of their lives.

It's in the government statutes here - PARLIAMENTARY PENSIONS ACT

Who is an office holder? - The term office holder includes the Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister, Speaker, Senior Minister, Minister, Senior Minister of State, Minister of State, Mayor, Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Parliamentary Secretary or Political Secretary.

How much? - Depending of length of service, office holders can get a maximum of 2/3 of their annual last drawn salary as an annual pension. For example, PM Lee earns S$3.87m a year now, will get at least S$2.58m a year when he retires. Mah Bow Tan will get at least S$1.8m a year. Vivian Balakrishnan will get S$800k for his 9 years in ministerial office if he retires this year.

Pension lumpsum - Pensions can be paid out in lumpsum if the office holder retiree so chooses. For this purpose the annual pension sum payable is multiplied by a 'prescribed commutation factor' to be decided by the President. Someone who sent an email out about this reckons this number to be 14.6. So if a minister's annual salary is S$2m when he retires, he can ask for S$29.2m in one go.

Taxes on pension - None. See government statutes INCOME TAX ACT section (h)

What about the rest of the civil service? - The rest of the civil service was converted away from the pension scheme to CPF some time ago. So ministerial office is only civil service position in SG that allows for pensions now.

So what's the problem? - After the facts, this is an opinion - These guys already are the highest paid politicians in the world. Seriously, it's a lot of money. Aren't they also saving up for their retirement like the rest of us? We private sector folks will get nothing when we retire (hopefully). MM has encouraged us to keep on working into our 60s and 70s - is it so that our continuing tax payments would fund their pensions? Talk about skewing the rich-poor gap. I'm not cool with it.
 
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BlackCookie;640640 said:
I'm not pro or against any party but essentially, this article is flawed. The Act says a maximum of 2/3 so using words like at least $XXX is wrong.

To begin with, I have no qualms about them getting the money. If I pay you these sum to handle the angry Singaporeans, would you?

Whatever the amount may be, the fact is its not a small amount. Why should they be getting pension in the forst place when the rest of us don't? Tell that to the MacDonald's aunties and uncles who have to old despite their age and for so little or to the toilet cleaners. One of the sore points for Singaporeans is the ministers' high salaries.

Anyway..what do I know? I'm not well versed in law or technically inclined. Have never dyno my car before.:nehnehhh:
 
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the irony of this pension scheme is that ...

Minister's retirement is funded by pension using Taxpayer money..whereas for taxpaying citizens the gov expects our retirement to be funded by CPF using our own money(cpf contributions) .. minimum sum scheme + CPF life is introduced to ensure that u have enuff savings for retirement... sad irony..
 
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toiletsiao;640661 said:
the irony of this pension scheme is that ...

Minister's retirement is funded by pension using Taxpayer money..whereas for taxpaying citizens the gov expects our retirement to be funded by CPF using our own money(cpf contributions) .. minimum sum scheme + CPF life is introduced to ensure that u have enuff savings for retirement... sad irony..

This is but one of the many points that's making Singaporeans angry.
 
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rodders;640669 said:
This is but one of the many points that's making Singaporeans angry.

feedback to our mp ... they want to connect with the other 45% of the ppl in East Coast GRC which did not vote for them...they want to know why... :)
 
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toiletsiao;640672 said:
feedback to our mp ... they want to connect with the other 45% of the ppl in East Coast GRC which did not vote for them...they want to know why... :)


Wanting to know why and doing something about our grievances are two separate issues. I seriously doubt they're gonna so anything. Do you think they're gonna reduce their salaries or do away with this pension scheme or reduce GST or make essential services and foodstuff GST exempt?
 
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rodders;640676 said:
Wanting to know why and doing something about our grievances are two separate issues. I seriously doubt they're gonna so anything. Do you think they're gonna reduce their salaries or do away with this pension scheme or reduce GST or make essential services and foodstuff GST exempt?

unlikely

lets show them what we think in the most democratic way in 2016

:shakemyb::shakemyb::shakemyb:
 
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toiletsiao;640680 said:
unlikely

lets show them what we think in the most democratic way in 2016

:shakemyb::shakemyb::shakemyb:

That's provided they don't carve out the GRC.
 

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