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Clap clap. Well done, SM.
 
I suspect the reply will come with ....... I regret to inform that.... bla bla bla :errr: :errr: :errr: :shoot: :shoot: :errr: :errr:
 
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TP has implemented all those gadgets without noticing that these cannot "close one eye" whereas human can. Looking at the list of camera locations published on the web, they seem to be all over the island.

Btw, does anyone know for roads with unspecified speed limit, is it default 50 or 60km/h?
 
" Btw, does anyone know for roads with unspecified speed limit, is it default 50 or 60km/h? "

Shud be 60kmh...
 
Seems quite a valid and convincing argument above but I think it's easier said than done.
 
But there are road still 50... so unless specified, it's still 50 wor... right ? :thinking:
 
I oso thought its raised to 60 sometime back....but some of my fren say its still 50km/h....
 
Actually I have talk to this professor who is from the traffic council or something and he pointed out a valid reason why the speed limit of Singapore cannot be raised to 100kph.. Think he even raised concern over the limit being raised to 90kph at that time..

Singapore, being a small country, with entry and exit into the expressway within every 2 to 3km or so and with the large amount of motorbikes, lorry and heavy good vehiles travelling on the same expressway, it's not just about the saloon car that is the concern but those slower ones that needs consideration...

Of course our saloon car can brake very well even at speed in excess of 100kph but the government needs to consider those car that they allow to be on the road and is 20 years old...

Then there are the Honda Carp 50cc motorbike that will literally tear apart at 100kph so unless theses vehicles are ban from the highway, which is highly unlikely, I don think the speeed of expressway can go much higher..... :verysad: :verysad:
 
A speed limit simply means the legally allowed maximum speed. The slower lorries, pickups, ancient cars, type C drivers (kekeke) can all chose to keep to the slower lanes. No one is forcing anyone to keep pace with the faster sedans. Also, raising the speed limit doesnt mean we can all drive at the speed limit all the time right? If its peak hour, it is peak hour. There is no way you can drive faster even if you wanted to.
I feel raising the speed limit will prevent innocent type B drivers from being ambushed and waylaid. I mean, the TP is best at catching folks when traffic is light and it is possible to travel faster. And sometimes, we just get caught out...unless we stare at the speedo every other second. Where are they when traffic is slow? Changing shift perhaps...

Thats the problem in Singapore. Sometimes people running the show think they know everything on the ground, but unfortunately they dont always do. :(
 
I guess there are problems to consider even if the slower vehicles could take the slow lane. There being only 2 or 3 lanes most times, raising the speed limit increases the speed differentials between each of the lanes. Moving from one lane to the next becomes more tricky.

Situation as it is right now. Slower vehicles go 80. Faster ones still can go 100 without getting caught. So 20/3 = approx 7km/h differential

Situation with new l110 km/h limit. Slower vehicles still go 80. Faster ones push 120 without getting caught. 40/3 = approx 13km/h differential.

Speed difference may seem small but still it is nearly twice the closing speed and with on and off ramps every 1 or 2km, it is something to consider.
 
I would agree totally with what SM has said. Only one problem doc, you're looking at things from the point of view that every driver there is a responsible young and intelligent doctor who is not in a hurry to end his life or career. In reality, there are full of idiots out there and when you look at legislation, laws are made for intelligent citizens? NO!
They are made for the regular idiots or the occasional idiots .... That is why if you look at the law, most are very middle road and applies to most people with enough capacity to cover those idiots.

Let me explain. What piggy says is true about the road being congested, speed differentials and all. The other thing that you have to remember is that common sense is a misnomer cos sense is NEVER common. People cannot be left on their own to make a wise decision. This is vividly potrayed in William Goldings "Lord of the Flies" (It's a Nobel Prize winner in Literature and tells a story of a group of middle class, well brought up English boys who were stranded on a tropical island and left to fend for themselves)

I mean I'm sure if you drive a truely engineered performance car eg M3, Evo, Rex, etc, you are able to handle well even at speeds beyond 150kmh but I'm also sure that you have seen a 10+ yr old beat up toyota corolla with rice type bodykit speeding past 120km/h. Now... how many toyota corollas of that age you think can brake safely from such a speed? Few and far between. You would think that logically, people should consider the capablities of their vehicle before attempting to maneuver at a certain speed over bends and corners right? Wrong! Because you see , you cannot trust someone to make the right decision given the situation. You say the speed limit is 140kmh, everyone will go at that speed even when their not capable of it. There are just too many idiots out there!!! So for everybodys' safety sake, tight control is placed on top speed/speed limit.

Just my 2 cents worth

Arsony
Topaz Blue NOT a performance car...
 
Did u guys check out the Straits Times' forum page today ? There is a few article that gave their comment on our doc's view...
 
No good or bad speedsters

AS A concerned mother, I must express my trepidation when I read Dr Yuen Siu Mun's letter, 'Speed traps net the wrong type of drivers' (ST, July 5).

Speeding in whatever form and in whatever vehicle is potentially dangerous and can be fatal. Yes, there are many drivers who pride themselves for being good drivers and good speedsters with their state-of-the-art vehicles. But the dire consequences of speeding are too painfully obvious, and tragic for some.

This debate brings back painful memories of a close friend of mine who died while on her way in a speeding ambulance to save someone's life. The driver was a specially-trained professional driver. The ambulance was a modern, state-of-the-art vehicle. Yet the fatal accident happened.

Speeding in whatever form is never justified. I do not subscribe to the good doctor's defence of a 'good' speedster driving a well-designed and 'safe' vehicle.

I must applaud the Traffic Police for their constant vigilance and relentless monitoring of drivers who exceed the speed limit.

Motorists who speed should not delude themselves that they are good and safe speedsters. Speeding is flirting with death. It gives the driver a false sense of well-being and confidence.

And, from my very personal and painful experiences, speeding can bring untold misery and sadness to the family. It can be very traumatic if someone close to you suffers a horrible accident as a result of speeding.

Here is my humble advice to the good doctor: Please do not advo-cate 'safe' speeding. Please do not try to justify raising speed limits.

There are no good or bad speedsters. Speedsters are speedsters. And they should be nabbed and cautioned without any hesitation to prevent unnecessary loss of lives and limbs - theirs and those of other road users.

AMY NG SIOK IM (MS)
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This lady is amazing. Some people just cannot understand that there is a whole spectrum of vehicle and driver capabilities, as well as road/traffic situations.

The example of an ambulance is ridiculous. Different weight, weight distribution, suspension system, brake system, steering system, tires compounds, aero.
 
Yup, the lady is amazing I agree. She sounds emotional, subjective and she completely missed my point!!! When I first read it, I was so amused. Concerned mother...trepidation....ambulance...humble advice to good doctor...

My goodness. Some people are beyond me.

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Good for you! Admire your tenacity. :thumbsup:
 
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