Obit and Obit II

[ykh1]

Hi All bro out there.......can pls advise which to install Obit or Obit II. My ride is E46 320I FL.

Went dwn to bvo, Bernard do advise me to take the Obit II but is more expansive than the Obit. So i just wonder is it necessary to spend more on the new version or the Obit itself will do the same job for my car????

 

[ykh1]

Re: Obit and Obit II

Pls help leh bro...........

 

[TripleM]

Re: Obit and Obit II

Haven't done it myself but if he promises you the real gain then why not give it a try.
U can perhaps do a base dyno run first, then have the OBITII installed,...if no gain/not happy then no pay...simple...

 

[JuzzforCars]

Re: Obit and Obit II

Hi All bro out there.......can pls advise which to install Obit or Obit II. My ride is E46 320I FL.

Went dwn to bvo, Bernard do advise me to take the Obit II but is more expansive than the Obit. So i just wonder is it necessary to spend more on the new version or the Obit itself will do the same job for my car????

Do consider our Hiop Flash Program. Bang for buck lor...

 

[Nuke]

Re: Obit and Obit II

A forumer was posting his experience with Hi-OP n how it increased his horsepower by 23.

http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5337

Anyone wif anything on the OBIT? or OBIT2?

 

[yky]

Re: Obit and Obit II

I had Obit 1 in my e65 for about 2 weeks. There was an increase in performance immediately after the installation but then, I felt that the power actually dropped after a couple of days and the gearchange became sluggish. Retuned it twice, each time with same immediate improvement, followed by drop in performance 2 days later. Perhaps the ECU adapts itself to the 'false' input from the Obit, I don't know.
Subsequently had it uninstalled and had HIOP programing done. Immediate and most importantly, sustained improvement was achieved. I am very happy with the overall result.

 

[JuzzforCars]

Re: Obit and Obit II

I had Obit 1 in my e65 for about 2 weeks. There was an increase in performance immediately after the installation but then, I felt that the power actually dropped after a couple of days and the gearchange became sluggish. Retuned it twice, each time with same immediate improvement, followed by drop in performance 2 days later. Perhaps the ECU adapts itself to the 'false' input from the Obit, I don't know.
Subsequently had it uninstalled and had HIOP programing done. Immediate and most importantly, sustained improvement was achieved. I am very happy with the overall result.

Flash Programs will erase the old data of certain parameters stored in the memory of the ECU and re-writes them with new data. Then the ECU will learn all these new settings. Once they learned the new settings, it will stay there forever unless the ECU is flash back with the original data.

Glad that you are happy with the results.

 

[BlackStealth]

Re: Obit and Obit II

Obit2 runs an extra ignition timing map whereas obit 1 does not. (dont get too technical on me, sorry in advance)

So far, bernard had tuned a 330i on obit 2 with a 28hp increase - as shown on the dyno chart done by a bro and kept by BVO. Dyno graphs of various bro's 320, 325 and 330 are also kept in his office should any interested bro wants to see proven data. As expected, various cars achieve different results. An avearge can be derieved of course. However, I must say Obit 1 is nothing like orbit 2, hence I will definately go for orbit 2. IT IS DIFFERENT! But subsequent follow up re-tuning is a MUST - somehow.

As i constantly tune and retune my car all the freak-ing time with different setups, I find obit 2 does the job fine and they achieve the desired results i want. Although the basics of the car is the same, different cars have different characteristics - especially with various combo setups. When I change a exhaust, i go for re-tune, when i change air filter, i go for retune, when i change spark plugs, i go for retune! I change any damn thing i go for retune! Problems do exists at times, but whoever said tuning car is an easy task? It is not necessary to keep re-tuning, but i am very particular and paranoid.
Aiya, maybe the most important good point is once you buy the obit, subsequent tuning is ALL FREE!! So i make sure I use it well! - the money value i mean

I had not done ecu flashing yet. But i believe they are good! Especially this DMS thing! But for me, I cannot afford to keep paying for re-flashing everytime i do something rather minor to major...and more than 15?? times(someone correct me please?), my ecu will burnt out its cycle liao.

I guess they all have their pros and cons either ways. I prefer obit2

Now that you have recieve positive feedbacks from both HIop and Obit, i hope they helped in your decision making.

All the best, Cheers.

 

[JuzzforCars]

Re: Obit and Obit II

ECU flashing will cater to all the mods you have done or going to do as it has buffer its settings to suits any more mods. The more mods you do to the car with flashed ECU, the better the new program works.

It is true that for most piggybacks you will have to retune everytime you do a mod to enhance the mods' capabilities. It will then optimise from there. It is just the time and petrol spent on the re-tuning.

 

[shaaz]

Re: Obit and Obit II

Both has it's advantages and disadvantges, its personal prefrence i guess, if u like the thought of retuning ur car everytime u do something to ur car, well at least u noe that gains will be there.. tuner sits next to u and tunes it, waste of petrol is there but in the end ur happy, downside.. if u dun like the idea of road tuning, waiting around ... then that's abit of a prob. Re-Flash tuning has it's ups and downs, Then only tuner i noe that actually tunes infront of u is DMS, although he comes back every month or 2... that gives u enough time to see if there is anything u wanna do. i dunno abt this buffer setting that hiop has, but to my knowledge i do not know if that is possible as they are reflshing the current map , basically putting a new one in.. if there was a buffer, then stock ecu could aslo read and adjust accordingly, my purpose of this post is that it's no use we bicker till the end of the world, both has its up and down sides, like i sed personal prefrence. Which one gives you more oomph?, flatter tourqe curve??... do a base run.. after which ever upgrade of ecu you choose, go back and do another dyno... compare both charts.... you'll sure see a diff just how much is the question.. it's also useful that u can use it to see where are the parts u can make it abit finer.. but then again.. tuners have to be in sin ... DMS and Obit both can be done.. im pretty sure hi-op (J4C) will also think of something yea?. just my thoughts.

 

[Racebred]

Re: Obit and Obit II

DMS, in addition to the usual 1) air/fuel mixture, 2)ignition timing, can control
3) double vanos
4) throttle response
5) clutch control (smg)
6) sports mode/non sports mode
7) speed delimiter
8 ) redline

and is virtually undetectable by agent.

it's great that obit 2 has an additional ignition map. the idea will suit most purposes of improving bhp/nm for our auto bmws at half the cost of dms.

 

[ykh1]

Re: Obit and Obit II

I had Obit 1 in my e65 for about 2 weeks. There was an increase in performance immediately after the installation but then, I felt that the power actually dropped after a couple of days and the gearchange became sluggish. Retuned it twice, each time with same immediate improvement, followed by drop in performance 2 days later.

Thanks for all the feedback BRO.......
My concert now with Obit is..........Does it really have the problem tat face by bro "yky"...the performance only can last for few day....then we need to re-tune again????

If yes....it will be veri troublesome to do tat................

So far didn't read any feedback abt Hiop Flash tat will change back to original performance after the install...........Since I'm not a heavy mod person.......I just looking for smthing can give me some improvement over my stock ECU.....and dun request to re-tune every once a while.......

 

[Racebred]

Re: Obit and Obit II

basically, for any piggyback's effects to last, it has to "fool" the ECU in EVERY part of it's closed loop cycle. If any piggyback can do that, the effects will last.

it's basically the ECU's self-checks within the closed loop that negates the parameter changes, in less powerful piggybacks mated with the most modern OEM ECUs.

 

[JuzzforCars]

Re: Obit and Obit II

Both has it's advantages and disadvantges, its personal prefrence i guess, if u like the thought of retuning ur car everytime u do something to ur car, well at least u noe that gains will be there.. tuner sits next to u and tunes it, waste of petrol is there but in the end ur happy, downside.. if u dun like the idea of road tuning, waiting around ... then that's abit of a prob. Re-Flash tuning has it's ups and downs, Then only tuner i noe that actually tunes infront of u is DMS, although he comes back every month or 2... that gives u enough time to see if there is anything u wanna do. i dunno abt this buffer setting that hiop has, but to my knowledge i do not know if that is possible as they are reflshing the current map , basically putting a new one in.. if there was a buffer, then stock ecu could aslo read and adjust accordingly, my purpose of this post is that it's no use we bicker till the end of the world, both has its up and down sides, like i sed personal prefrence. Which one gives you more oomph?, flatter tourqe curve??... do a base run.. after which ever upgrade of ecu you choose, go back and do another dyno... compare both charts.... you'll sure see a diff just how much is the question.. it's also useful that u can use it to see where are the parts u can make it abit finer.. but then again.. tuners have to be in sin ... DMS and Obit both can be done.. im pretty sure hi-op (J4C) will also think of something yea?. just my thoughts.

The hiop tuner does come here once in a while. We would also very much prefer to flash and tune the settings which we believe that there is...

Of coz, both piggybacks and flash programs got its advs and disadvs - agree agree, bro.

 

[shaaz]

Re: Obit and Obit II

basically, for any piggyback's effects to last, it has to "fool" the ECU in EVERY part of it's closed loop cycle. If any piggyback can do that, the effects will last.

it's basically the ECU's self-checks within the closed loop that negates the parameter changes, in less powerful piggybacks mated with the most modern OEM ECUs.

yea, correct correct!!!... something we talked bout one of the nights too !...