No Crank No Start - Array of fault lights

Re: No Crank No Start - Array of fault lights

How's the battery ?

Low battery is known to wreck havoc and create lots of X'mas lights on the dash .....

Pop the bonnet ..... remove the red cap in the engine bay and use a multi-meter to tap the positive terminal and ground. If it's flat - it will less than 12v. Sometimes even as low as 5-6v.
 
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Re: No Crank No Start - Array of fault lights

My time is resetted, but all electronics and lights work fine.

I'll go look for a mutlimeter to test the voltages.

Thanks for the tip.
 
Re: No Crank No Start - Array of fault lights

I had a similar problem where the car couldn't start nor crank. No lights whatsoever on the dash. Radio also dead. Battery was totally flat such that I can't even use the remote to lock the car. Had to manually lock it.

It was a flat battery and there was no warning indicator.

If the car cannot start, call the BMW Mobile Service and they can come by to start your car. If confirm battery, drive to a WS to have it changed.
 
Re: No Crank No Start - Array of fault lights

looks like a battery fault. unlikely to be start motor since you are getting christmas lights...
 
Re: No Crank No Start - Array of fault lights

redline15;1072292 said:
I had a similar problem where the car couldn't start nor crank. No lights whatsoever on the dash. Radio also dead. Battery was totally flat such that I can't even use the remote to lock the car. Had to manually lock it.

It was a flat battery and there was no warning indicator.

If the car cannot start, call the BMW Mobile Service and they can come by to start your car. If confirm battery, drive to a WS to have it changed.

Does BMW Mobile service charge if come by to start your car only?
 
Re: No Crank No Start - Array of fault lights

If is not battery then comfirmed is alternator
 
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Hire a taxi cheaper ....... Did it once .... Taxi driver blur - flag the cab by the roadside and ask him to drive into mscp. Ask him to park next to ride and then I whip out my sampong cable with the big buaya clip ... Ask him to pop the bonnet .... Connect it up and ask him to rev .....

Then I told him pretend I go to changi airport how much and paid him .....


daz3;1072327 said:
Does BMW Mobile service charge if come by to start your car only?
 
Re: No Crank No Start - Array of fault lights

RBB and alvinado are right. It is the battery.

Did not have a multimeter so did not manage to check battery voltage.
My bro came home so asked him to jump start my car with his car. No luck - I heard one crank and it was still back to no crank, only tick-tick sounds. Was so dismayed, so I heeded redline15's suggestion and called BMW roadside assistance.

The operator told me the guy will come to attempt to start the car and diagnose the fault if can't be restarted. I specifically asked very clearly if I had to pay. She told me battery up to $700(!), and if not battery fault, I can tow to PML to fix. I thought "wah lao PML", and asked if I can choose to tow to my WS and if so, do I need to pay the BMW assistance guy. She said no need to pay even if i choose not to go to PML.

So after 90 min, the guy came to try to restart with a portable jumpstarter. It worked, to my amazament, and he told me not to try jumpstarting with another vehicle. It may fry either cars' electrics. He whipped out his multimeter, the voltage is 14V+ when engine is on, in the low 12V when engine off.

He quoted $314 for a replacement battery, and showed me the official PML quotation sheet. I asked if I changed at my WS, do I need to pay him. He said no, so I called my WS and he quoted $170 for a similar size of my current battery, and $240 for a larger one. He restarted my car one last time and I thanked him, and drove to get an Amaron battery at $240.

My 2005 320i didnt require battery registration, so after replacement, it was driving as usual. Maybe it is the horror stories of BMWs I have been reading in forums - always thinking the worst has come, when it is something small like a flat and retired battery.

Much thanks to RBB, alvinado, and redlne15 for your various advices.
 
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daz3;1072327 said:
Does BMW Mobile service charge if come by to start your car only?

No. They don't charge for helping to start the car :)
 
Re: No Crank No Start - Array of fault lights

Bro, you're lucky. It happened to me on the eve of CNY. After restarting my car, I wanted to drive it to my ws to replace the battery. The BMW mechanic was nice. He asked me to call my WS to check if they're open first. I called a couple and they weren't open so I had no choice but to ask him to change the battery. The price is the same as what you're quoted. He needed 45min because he had to calibrate and register the battery.

Anyway, I was told the BMW battery last longer than the usual one. I notice the size of the old battery is smaller than the BMW battery.

Well... glad to be able to help. We're all here to share and learn :)
 
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Glad to see that your problem is resolved.....


Btw.....your jump start cable needs to change to the bigger type with the big clips. I always have one in the car for emergencies.
Get one that has an awg rating between 10-20 gauge else not enough amps can pass through to start the car.

Sampong from another car is perfectly safe as long as you follow the right procedure.

richardwan;1072344 said:
RBB and alvinado are right. It is the battery.

Did not have a multimeter so did not manage to check battery voltage.
My bro came home so asked him to jump start my car with his car. No luck - I heard one crank and it was still back to no crank, only tick-tick sounds. Was so dismayed, so I heeded redline15's suggestion and called BMW roadside assistance.

The operator told me the guy will come to attempt to start the car and diagnose the fault if can't be restarted. I specifically asked very clearly if I had to pay. She told me battery up to $700(!), and if not battery fault, I can tow to PML to fix. I thought "wah lao PML", and asked if I can choose to tow to my WS and if so, do I need to pay the BMW assistance guy. She said no need to pay even if i choose not to go to PML.

So after 90 min, the guy came to try to restart with a portable jumpstarter. It worked, to my amazament, and he told me not to try jumpstarting with another vehicle. It may fry either cars' electrics. He whipped out his multimeter, the voltage is 14V+ when engine is on, in the low 12V when engine off.

He quoted $314 for a replacement battery, and showed me the official PML quotation sheet. I asked if I changed at my WS, do I need to pay him. He said no, so I called my WS and he quoted $170 for a similar size of my current battery, and $240 for a larger one. He restarted my car one last time and I thanked him, and drove to get an Amaron battery at $240.

My 2005 320i didnt require battery registration, so after replacement, it was driving as usual. Maybe it is the horror stories of BMWs I have been reading in forums - always thinking the worst has come, when it is something small like a flat and retired battery.

Much thanks to RBB, alvinado, and redlne15 for your various advices.
 
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Re: No Crank No Start - Array of fault lights

I wonder... the factory battery is covered by warranty for 1 year or 2 ah?
 
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Meek;1072358 said:
I wonder... the factory battery is covered by warranty for 1 year or 2 ah?

PML will cover 3rd year warranty for new cars bought from them. I changed the battery FOC by PML after 2 1/2 years
 

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