Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

[lylcnn]

Hi bros, was told by a ws that it's useless to change ATF without changing filter. True? Thought it's recommended to change filter every other ATF change. And ATF change every 30-40km?
Thanks guys...

 

[Highbeam]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

Bro, someone did tell me this. The filter is suppose to filter out impurities. So by changing new oil and yet keep the old "dirt" sounds incorrect. Hence if change might as well change the filter too. That's my one cent. Cheers!

 

[Baby1M]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

ATF oil no need to change, it is Lifetime oil... not me say, BMW say

 

[canuck78]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

ATF oil no need to change, it is Lifetime oil... not me say, BMW say

If you wanna keep your car for long, and don't want your auto tranny to kaput ar 100k km, then better change your ATF at 40k intervals.

There's no such thing as lifetime oils, which to bmw is around 100k miles or 160k km. Many has encountered problems with their bmw auto tranny well before that mileage.

 

[Red_Bean_Bun]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

If your transmission is a ZF gearbox then here's what ZF says. ........

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If yours is a GM gearbox then leave it alone.

 

[ccc]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

My zf already getting jerky when travelling down those mscp. Mileage only 30k.

 

[Jason8822]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

If GM gearbox then dun need change ?

 

[Codewerx]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

If GM gearbox then dun need change ?

Hearsay GM GB becomes worst after changing ...... Not a big GM GB fan.

Look at the F Series GBs - all ZF.

 

[Codewerx]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

And remember to reset the data collection after changing the ATF ...... It's not the same thing as the reset of the current and learned adaptations.

It's in the manual......

 

[lylcnn]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

If you wanna keep your car for long, and don't want your auto tranny to kaput ar 100k km, then better change your ATF at 40k intervals.

There's no such thing as lifetime oils, which to bmw is around 100k miles or 160k km. Many has encountered problems with their bmw auto tranny well before that mileage.

Bro..question is if the filter also needs to be changed each time the ATF is changed. ..thanks b

 

[Vansoh]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

alamak, this question can be answered pretty easily with another question.
do you change the oil filter when you change engine oil? if no, then no. if yes, then yes.

Bro..question is if the filter also needs to be changed each time the ATF is changed. ..thanks b

 

[lylcnn]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

Thanks bro..while what u said is very logical but the difference is oil filter is maybe one-tenth the price of transmission oil filter/pan, and thought I read that some broz just change ATF without changing filter, hence hoping guru bros here could help provide guidance....

alamak, this question can be answered pretty easily with another question.
do you change the oil filter when you change engine oil? if no, then no. if yes, then yes.

 

[Meek]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

Its not worth trying to save the cost of a filter. Once in 60k (works out to be 2-3 years). Why not just change it once you open up the gearbox?

 

[canuck78]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

Bro..question is if the filter also needs to be changed each time the ATF is changed. ..thanks b

The ATF filter / oil pan around $140 for e90
Might as well change

 

[casper77]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

alamak, this question can be answered pretty easily with another question.
do you change the oil filter when you change engine oil? if no, then no. if yes, then yes.

Bro, ue example no gd lay.........

Ask urself, will u change the filter of the coffee maker everytime u make coffee or use back the same???

if u use back the same filter, dont invite us for coffee.....

 

[Vansoh]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

my coffee maker don't have filter. i usually drink 3 in 1 coffee. but for you, I use capsule ones ok?

Bro, ue example no gd lay.........

Ask urself, will u change the filter of the coffee maker everytime u make coffee or use back the same???

if u use back the same filter, dont invite us for coffee.....

 

[casper77]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

my coffee maker don't have filter. i usually drink 3 in 1 coffee. but for you, I use capsule ones ok?

ur ATF also 3 in 1????

 

[Red_Bean_Bun]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

You can change the oil only by just draining it out without dropping the pan.

Some WS like that idea - Hearsay too much new oil will shock the seals inside.

Then next round then drop the pan and change the filter if nothing happened.

Some people just change one shot.

Thanks bro..while what u said is very logical but the difference is oil filter is maybe one-tenth the price of transmission oil filter/pan, and thought I read that some broz just change ATF without changing filter, hence hoping guru bros here could help provide guidance....

 

[canuck78]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

Thanks to bro RBB for highlighting the fact that ATF change on ZF gearbox is normal, whilst you have to consider carefully for GM gearbox.

To change ATF oil pan / filter or not, if looking at cost perspective, might as well change.

If concern is others, like too much new ATF oil, seals shock etc then please do so at your own risk.

I have change twice so far at 40k / 2 year interval, ie full flush 7L of bmw ATF fluid change and both times with new oil pan. So far so good and mine is using the ZF gearbox of course.

You can change the oil only by just draining it out without dropping the pan.

Some WS like that idea - Hearsay too much new oil will shock the seals inside.

Then next round then drop the pan and change the filter if nothing happened.

Some people just change one shot.

 

[Ninja]

Re: Need advice -- change ATF or ATF+Filter?? Mileage?

is rear axel oil = ATF oil