Is drifting possible with M3 DCT 7 Speeder?
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Re: Is drifting possible with M3 DCT 7 Speeder?
With MDM mode, you cant drift. Maybe powerslide. The MDM mode only allows for 15-20% slip before traction control intervenes. The real way is to DSC off and do it. Highly against it unless you have big space or pro drifter. I tried it in the rain once and it was damn fun in the open public car park. The car was so balanced!
zag;435593 said:
With MDM mode, you cant drift. Maybe powerslide. The MDM mode only allows for 15-20% slip before traction control intervenes. The real way is to DSC off and do it. Highly against it unless you have big space or pro drifter. I tried it in the rain once and it was damn fun in the open public car park. The car was so balanced!
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Re: Is drifting possible with M3 DCT 7 Speeder?
yes, your DSC needs to be off. If it is still somewhat engaged, individual braking of the wheels will result, and the computer will try to point your car in the direction of your steering angle, which will instantly spoil your drift. With DSC on you can still do a little bit of a momentum drift as long as your entry speed is high enough. But you have no way of maintaining that drift with your throttle. Once the inertia is gone, your drift stops. But this is highly not recommended as the car becomes VERY unpredictable with double-corrections and shit. Best to off DSC completely.
Without a clutch pedal, you cannot do those "pump clutch to drastically and suddenly change your rear wheel speed" kind of drifts. But that only takes 1 method out of the book. The easiest to perform in a BMW M, is actually a power over. Coz the weight balance is very neutral, the degree of error an amatuer drifter can go into is a lot larger, before the car spins out. Momentum and weight transfer drifts, including braking drifts, can easily be done and is independent of clutch-induced drifts.
Once the drift is initiated, the rear diff work really very well in letting you maintain your slip angle. If you feel your slip angle or your drift tapering off halfway, yes, you cannot pump the clutch again to slip the rear wheels, boh pian. If your speed is still a bit high-ish, then try a bit of handbrake to replace the lack of a clutch. If your speed is not too high, you can pump in a bit more throttle. As far as possible, no need to use clutch to initiate or maintain a drift, coz you are using your own car, and it causes a lot of shock to the driveline, very sim tiah you know.
Because the M is thankfully still an NA car for now, amatuer drifters can still easily control the car. Unlike pro drifters who can skilfully keep the boost on with higher revs with their high speed drifts, I always have a problem with throttle because my stupid revs drop too much resulting in the turbos coming on and off, spoiling the balance. So this M package is really very good for drifting. You dont need a conventional manual tranny for this. Only gripe is that the conventional M steering wheel is a bit too fat for proper steering play. But still can la.
yes, your DSC needs to be off. If it is still somewhat engaged, individual braking of the wheels will result, and the computer will try to point your car in the direction of your steering angle, which will instantly spoil your drift. With DSC on you can still do a little bit of a momentum drift as long as your entry speed is high enough. But you have no way of maintaining that drift with your throttle. Once the inertia is gone, your drift stops. But this is highly not recommended as the car becomes VERY unpredictable with double-corrections and shit. Best to off DSC completely.
Without a clutch pedal, you cannot do those "pump clutch to drastically and suddenly change your rear wheel speed" kind of drifts. But that only takes 1 method out of the book. The easiest to perform in a BMW M, is actually a power over. Coz the weight balance is very neutral, the degree of error an amatuer drifter can go into is a lot larger, before the car spins out. Momentum and weight transfer drifts, including braking drifts, can easily be done and is independent of clutch-induced drifts.
Once the drift is initiated, the rear diff work really very well in letting you maintain your slip angle. If you feel your slip angle or your drift tapering off halfway, yes, you cannot pump the clutch again to slip the rear wheels, boh pian. If your speed is still a bit high-ish, then try a bit of handbrake to replace the lack of a clutch. If your speed is not too high, you can pump in a bit more throttle. As far as possible, no need to use clutch to initiate or maintain a drift, coz you are using your own car, and it causes a lot of shock to the driveline, very sim tiah you know.
Because the M is thankfully still an NA car for now, amatuer drifters can still easily control the car. Unlike pro drifters who can skilfully keep the boost on with higher revs with their high speed drifts, I always have a problem with throttle because my stupid revs drop too much resulting in the turbos coming on and off, spoiling the balance. So this M package is really very good for drifting. You dont need a conventional manual tranny for this. Only gripe is that the conventional M steering wheel is a bit too fat for proper steering play. But still can la.
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Re: Is drifting possible with M3 DCT 7 Speeder?
Hey man, were u there with us in the 2002 IDC? I will always remember how tough it was to maintain a sustained drift
The winner in that drift comp was our resident dental specialist. He was a natural. Took to it like ducks to water. The most memorable experience was of course, sitting next to Ringo while he drifted thru all the bends round Pasir Gudang without putting a foot wrong, and in a puny E46 328i. I remember a female passenger emptied her lunch on the track upon disembarking...nasty...
Racebred;436275 said:
Hey man, were u there with us in the 2002 IDC? I will always remember how tough it was to maintain a sustained drift
The winner in that drift comp was our resident dental specialist. He was a natural. Took to it like ducks to water. The most memorable experience was of course, sitting next to Ringo while he drifted thru all the bends round Pasir Gudang without putting a foot wrong, and in a puny E46 328i. I remember a female passenger emptied her lunch on the track upon disembarking...nasty...
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Re: Is drifting possible with M3 DCT 7 Speeder?
i cant really remember, but i think yeah... I was with the same car with HiaoEh Ivan. wait a minute, I only went for ADT, not the intensive one. The 1st intensive training (that one got discount one) I couldnt make it coz I was on a Europe tour. But that was okay because I got "tuition" from the attendees after that in Tuas, and we managed to reverse flick every single car we got our hands on. hehe
Sustained drift is really not easy without an LSD. Those who could manage it.. clap clap clap clap!!!
i cant really remember, but i think yeah... I was with the same car with HiaoEh Ivan. wait a minute, I only went for ADT, not the intensive one. The 1st intensive training (that one got discount one) I couldnt make it coz I was on a Europe tour. But that was okay because I got "tuition" from the attendees after that in Tuas, and we managed to reverse flick every single car we got our hands on. hehe
Sustained drift is really not easy without an LSD. Those who could manage it.. clap clap clap clap!!!
