Inelastic Oil Prices On The Way Down

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Reaping profits at motorists' expense?

Published on Aug 19, 2011

WHEN oil prices set a record of more than US$120 a barrel in 2007 and early 2008, and when the United States dollar stayed around S$1.45, motorists paid about $2 per litre for medium-grade petrol.

Today, global oil prices have dropped by more than 25 per cent to below US$90 a barrel, and the greenback has lost some 15 per cent of its value against the Singapore dollar.

Yet, motorists are still paying about the same price of nearly $2 for a litre of petrol.

Motorists and businesses have not benefited from the drop in oil prices and the US dollar, and this has translated into a huge profit of more than 35 per cent for all the petroleum companies in Singapore.

Minus inflation and other increases in costs, I venture the oil firms are still raking in an extraordinary profit of some 15 per cent to 20 per cent.

Shareholders and oil firm employees must be beaming, but the critical question is the lack of action on behalf of consumers.

What has the Consumers Association of Singapore done? Who else should take up the cause on behalf of consumers and what can be done?

Tan Ming Siang


Mobil explains pump pricing

Published on Aug 19, 2011

WE UNDERSTAND Mr Lim Kia Cheh's concerns ('Pump prices quick to rise, slow to fall', Forum Online; Aug 13). Pump prices do not rise or fall at the same time or magnitude as crude prices because pump prices are affected by a combination of factors, of which crude prices are but one of these many factors.

Commodity and product prices, while linked, also have different supply and demand dynamics.

In addition to market competition, fuel prices are determined by a number of other factors, including wholesale fuel prices (which may be different to crude oil prices), taxes and other operating costs.

Some Competition Commission of Singapore staff had recently carried out an in-depth, independent study into the fuel retailing market in Singapore.

Part of the study included an econometric analysis on the retail petrol prices to test if the 'rocket-and-feather' (where prices rise more or faster than they fall) phenomenon exists and they found that the results do not support the existence of such a phenomenon.

Loh Pin Chuan
Public and Government Affairs Manager
ExxonMobil Asia Pacific

Extracted From Straits Times

Reaping profits at motorists' expense?

ExxonMobil explains pump pricing
 
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Re: Inelastic Oil Prices On The Way Down

The garment should just do away with the stoopid 3/4 tank rule...then we'll see how these F***ing idiots of a petrol companies take advantage of us.

The same applies to our electricity charges. It has not fallen fast enuf too.
 
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Oil firm's explanation doesn't allay concerns

Published on Aug 22, 2011

CERTAINLY, we are aware pump prices are affected by a combination of factors and they do not fluctuate at the same magnitude as crude oil prices ('ExxonMobil explains pump pricing'; last Friday).

But the explanation is inadequate in addressing the concerns of motorists. It is common knowledge that the main component of pump price is wholesale fuel price, which in turn is closely linked to crude oil price.

Motorists are not demanding that the petrol companies adjust pump prices on every movement in crude oil prices. But take the current situation as a case in point. Crude oil price has fallen around 20 per cent from its recent peak in May and it has stayed below US$90 for three weeks already.

Yet, pump prices have fallen only by less than 5 per cent. This is too big a difference. On the other hand, during the rapid rally in crude oil price earlier this year, pump prices rose several rounds in quick succession.

Going by ExxonMobil's logic, if other cost components ease off while crude price surges in future, does it mean pump prices would not rise much?

Steve Goh

Oil firm's explanation doesn't allay concerns


Beating about the bush on pump prices

Published on Aug 22, 2011

THE reply last Friday ("ExxonMobil explains pump pricing") to Mr Lim Kia Cheh's letter ("Pump prices quick to rise, slow to fall"; Aug 13) seeking an explanation to why pump prices seem to increase quicker than its decrease is a piece of obscurantist writing.

Instead of offering a clear explanation, readers are treated to a litany of factors affecting pump prices such as: "crude prices", "commodity and product", "supply and demand dynamics", "wholesale fuel prices", "taxes and operating costs".

Such technicalities have little meaning in themselves unless they are all linked in a simple formula that could be understood by all.

The public wants to be educated on such things because they affect their lives. Keeping them in the dark by beating about the bush only serves to heighten their curiosity.

Lee Seck Kay

Beating about the bush on pump prices


Explanation doesn't hold water

Published on Aug 22, 2011



EXXONMOBIL'S explanation on pump pricing does not hold water ("ExxonMobil explains pump pricing"; last Friday).

The question is if the crude oil prices and pump prices are not directly related then why were oil companies quick to raise the pump prices almost immediately in tandem with any rise in crude oil prices?

The crude oil price has fallen from more than US$100 to US$82 but the pump prices have yet to be adjusted accordingly.

Thomas Ko

Explanation doesn't hold water
 
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Re: Inelastic Oil Prices On The Way Down

only Mobil 1 engine oil is down, $10.99 at GIANT !
 
Re: Inelastic Oil Prices On The Way Down

Last time PUB explained that power/water prices were high even when oil prices were low was because they used forward buying.

I haven't seen my SP bill go lower since their forward buying in 2010.

Loh Pin Chuan should have just kept his mouth shut or else people will be screaming VOTE TAN JEE SAY!
 
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MW;676414 said:
Last time PUB explained that power/water prices were high even when oil prices were low was because they used forward buying.

I haven't seen my SP bill go lower since their forward buying in 2010.

Loh Pin Chuan should have just kept his mouth shut or else people will be screaming VOTE TAN JEE SAY!

MW, you should run for election. Just don't humiliate yourself with all those undertable activities like Bill Clinton. Ken said that is your fetish. :huhhuh:
 
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Ken cannot fit under the table

On a separate note, I just went through my last 15 months SP bills and indeed PUB's Forward Buying policy really works. My SP bills have been priced forward and forward since March 2010 and still going forward...
 
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It's called "sticky downwards." :( What's really inelastic is the demand - people will pump no matter what the price.

The bizarre thing is Singapore is still pegging utilities to fuel oil (which rises and falls with crude) even though we rely mostly on natural gas these days. And gas has been one of the worst-performing commodity for years.
 
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Same question must hv been asked and answered 100x...we motorist can just suck thumb.
 
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I have already boycott caltex as they are always the first to hike pump price.

I don't forseen SHELL lowering their pump price this week as the V-POWER promotion is ongoing.

The formula is simple. As long as one petrol company is willing to lower the pump price, the others will follow. But nowadays, who wanna be "hero"?
 

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