Aaron_BMW
Well-Known Member
Dear all,
Just to share what I did for my own car.
At mileage of estimated 140,000 KM, my car was leaking engine oil badly and emits a huge amount of white smoke while driving on the road.
Please note that this is a common problem for many BMWs.
This was when I did my 1st valve seal change.
Please see link below for my 1st valve seal change details.
Valve Seals & Valve Cover Gasket change – white smoke problem solved – BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...hange-white-smoke-problem-solved-bmw-e90.html
At mileage of estimated 264,000 ++ KM, I did my 2nd valve seal change.
After the valve seal change, my car is completely normal again and very nice to drive.
Therefore I estimate that the 16 engine valve seals can usually last around 100,000 to 120,000 KM before they are worn off and starts to leak engine oil.
With my own car, I have successfully solved the leaking engine oil and white smoke problem without the need to do a top overhaul at all.
I am a heavy user of my car and my mileage is rocket high now pushing to 300,000 KM soon. I believe the car, engine and gear box should be able to last up to 400,000 KM before I need to overhaul engine or gear box.
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Why U should solve the engine oil and white smoke problem?
Because by topping up engine oil non stop actually cost me more in the long run than the repair cost, it is also against LTA regulations to emit white smoke while driving on the road.
Ur car also smells damn bad and harms UR health.
So want is the difference between top over haul and valve seal change?
---Top over haul---
-Top set (all gaskets and a lot of work to be done)
-Grand valve
-Engine valves
-Takes 3 days to complete the job
- double the labour cost and price to do
Vs
---Valve seal change---
-Engine gasket
-Engine valves
-Half a day to compete the job
If you have a engine oil leakage and white smoke problem, Most workshop will recommend you to do a top overhaul as a standard Practise and preventive measures for your engine. They believe by just doing the valve seal change alone is not enough and the other parts might soon wear off thus U need to go back and open up your engine again.
I fully respect the recommendations and the Practise of the workshops.
Just that given a choice, I would choose just to change only the current damaged part due to wear and tear first. My car has been a successfully example of 2 valve seal change at intervals of more than 100,000 KM and still going strong.
I frequently drive up to KL, Penang, Ipoh and even Thailand.
To be fair, I am taking a risk of having to do a top overhaul after changing the engine valve seals and end up opening up my engine twice and incurred more cost to repair.
After reading my post, hope u all can better decide how you want to maintain ur ride.
I am loving my BMW.
PM me if u need to ask me for the stockies or workshop, it’s easier for me to reply.
Cheers~!!!
Below are my other posts if u have missed them out:
BMW forum postings:
Outing to Johor Premium Outlet – 13th Jan 2013
Outing to Johor Premium Outlet – 13th Jan 2013
Back from JPO - picture sharing and sequences of events - jan 2013
Back from JPO - picture sharing and sequences of events - jan 2013
Gearbox Solenoid Change - Jerking Problem Solved - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...lenoid-change-jerking-problem-solved-e90.html
DEPO Angel Headlights + LED signal - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...276-depo-angel-headlights-led-signal-e90.html
After Market Angel Eyes Headlamp - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...380-after-market-angel-eyes-headlamp-e90.html
Adjustment of Headlights leveling - left hand or right hand throw - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...-leveling-left-hand-right-hand-throw-e90.html
Upgrade to LCI bonnet and M Sports bumper after hitting monkey on NS highway – E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...mper-after-hitting-monkey-ns-highway-e90.html
Re spray to Alpine White – BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...2011/66737-re-spray-alpine-white-bmw-e90.html
Air-con Recovery Machine - E90 / all other models
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...on-recovery-machine-e90-all-other-models.html
BlackVue camera - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-series-e90-e92-e93-m3-2006-2011/84682-blackvue-camera-e90.html
Wind Screen Repair - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-series-e90-e92-e93-m3-2006-2011/84990-wind-screen-repair-e90.html
Radiator change - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-series-e90-e92-e93-m3-2006-2011/73176-radiator-change-e90.html
BMW customized car curtains – E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...11/77140-bmw-customized-car-curtains-e90.html
Engine Mounting - replacement - BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...1795-engine-mounting-replacement-bmw-e90.html
M5 Gear knob installation – BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-.../66791-m5-gear-knob-installation-bmw-e90.html
air-con circulation - Permenant - DIY - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...69-air-con-circulation-permenant-diy-e90.html
Tensioner belt and pulley system - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...1/84896-tensioner-belt-pulley-system-e90.html
BC -BR coilovers - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-series-e90-e92-e93-m3-2006-2011/65777-bc-br-coilovers-e90.html
M color stickers on front kidney grills - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...m-color-stickers-front-kidney-grills-e90.html
Re wraping of roof, A,B,C pillars in my BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...8-re-wraping-roof-b-c-pillars-my-bmw-e90.html
Air-con compressor - replace - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...011/81066-air-con-compressor-replace-e90.html
Spacers with extended studs (black color) – BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...acers-extended-studs-black-color-bmw-e90.html
VTTR Big Brake Kits - front & rear - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...65776-vttr-big-brake-kits-front-rear-e90.html
silver color dry carbon stickers on my gear shift panel - BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...bon-stickers-my-gear-shift-panel-bmw-e90.html
MoMo Boss Kit, NRG slim quick release and NRG Suede steering - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...lim-quick-release-nrg-suede-steering-e90.html
customised BMW steering wheel logo - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...9-customised-bmw-steering-wheel-logo-e90.html
Pivot 3 Drive - e-throttle controller - on E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...-pivot-3-drive-e-throttle-controller-e90.html
mini woofer in cabin - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-series-e90-e92-e93-m3-2006-2011/65775-mini-woofer-cabin-e90.html
HKS open pod on E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-series-e90-e92-e93-m3-2006-2011/65384-hks-open-pod-e90.html
HID conversation on my fog lights - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...65386-hid-conversation-my-fog-lights-e90.html
Re-Location of the IU under the sun visor
Re-Location of the IU under the sun visor
my BMW as a movie car?????????
my BMW as a movie car?????????
Ignition coil - replacement - E90
Ignition coil - replacement - E90
Just to share what I did for my own car.
At mileage of estimated 140,000 KM, my car was leaking engine oil badly and emits a huge amount of white smoke while driving on the road.
Please note that this is a common problem for many BMWs.
This was when I did my 1st valve seal change.
Please see link below for my 1st valve seal change details.
Valve Seals & Valve Cover Gasket change – white smoke problem solved – BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...hange-white-smoke-problem-solved-bmw-e90.html
At mileage of estimated 264,000 ++ KM, I did my 2nd valve seal change.
After the valve seal change, my car is completely normal again and very nice to drive.
Therefore I estimate that the 16 engine valve seals can usually last around 100,000 to 120,000 KM before they are worn off and starts to leak engine oil.
With my own car, I have successfully solved the leaking engine oil and white smoke problem without the need to do a top overhaul at all.
I am a heavy user of my car and my mileage is rocket high now pushing to 300,000 KM soon. I believe the car, engine and gear box should be able to last up to 400,000 KM before I need to overhaul engine or gear box.
View attachment 65621
View attachment 65622
View attachment 65623
View attachment 65624
View attachment 65625
Why U should solve the engine oil and white smoke problem?
Because by topping up engine oil non stop actually cost me more in the long run than the repair cost, it is also against LTA regulations to emit white smoke while driving on the road.
Ur car also smells damn bad and harms UR health.
So want is the difference between top over haul and valve seal change?
---Top over haul---
-Top set (all gaskets and a lot of work to be done)
-Grand valve
-Engine valves
-Takes 3 days to complete the job
- double the labour cost and price to do
Vs
---Valve seal change---
-Engine gasket
-Engine valves
-Half a day to compete the job
If you have a engine oil leakage and white smoke problem, Most workshop will recommend you to do a top overhaul as a standard Practise and preventive measures for your engine. They believe by just doing the valve seal change alone is not enough and the other parts might soon wear off thus U need to go back and open up your engine again.
I fully respect the recommendations and the Practise of the workshops.
Just that given a choice, I would choose just to change only the current damaged part due to wear and tear first. My car has been a successfully example of 2 valve seal change at intervals of more than 100,000 KM and still going strong.
I frequently drive up to KL, Penang, Ipoh and even Thailand.
To be fair, I am taking a risk of having to do a top overhaul after changing the engine valve seals and end up opening up my engine twice and incurred more cost to repair.
After reading my post, hope u all can better decide how you want to maintain ur ride.
I am loving my BMW.
PM me if u need to ask me for the stockies or workshop, it’s easier for me to reply.
Cheers~!!!
Below are my other posts if u have missed them out:
BMW forum postings:
Outing to Johor Premium Outlet – 13th Jan 2013
Outing to Johor Premium Outlet – 13th Jan 2013
Back from JPO - picture sharing and sequences of events - jan 2013
Back from JPO - picture sharing and sequences of events - jan 2013
Gearbox Solenoid Change - Jerking Problem Solved - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...lenoid-change-jerking-problem-solved-e90.html
DEPO Angel Headlights + LED signal - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...276-depo-angel-headlights-led-signal-e90.html
After Market Angel Eyes Headlamp - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...380-after-market-angel-eyes-headlamp-e90.html
Adjustment of Headlights leveling - left hand or right hand throw - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...-leveling-left-hand-right-hand-throw-e90.html
Upgrade to LCI bonnet and M Sports bumper after hitting monkey on NS highway – E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...mper-after-hitting-monkey-ns-highway-e90.html
Re spray to Alpine White – BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...2011/66737-re-spray-alpine-white-bmw-e90.html
Air-con Recovery Machine - E90 / all other models
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...on-recovery-machine-e90-all-other-models.html
BlackVue camera - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-series-e90-e92-e93-m3-2006-2011/84682-blackvue-camera-e90.html
Wind Screen Repair - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-series-e90-e92-e93-m3-2006-2011/84990-wind-screen-repair-e90.html
Radiator change - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-series-e90-e92-e93-m3-2006-2011/73176-radiator-change-e90.html
BMW customized car curtains – E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...11/77140-bmw-customized-car-curtains-e90.html
Engine Mounting - replacement - BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...1795-engine-mounting-replacement-bmw-e90.html
M5 Gear knob installation – BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-.../66791-m5-gear-knob-installation-bmw-e90.html
air-con circulation - Permenant - DIY - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...69-air-con-circulation-permenant-diy-e90.html
Tensioner belt and pulley system - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...1/84896-tensioner-belt-pulley-system-e90.html
BC -BR coilovers - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-series-e90-e92-e93-m3-2006-2011/65777-bc-br-coilovers-e90.html
M color stickers on front kidney grills - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...m-color-stickers-front-kidney-grills-e90.html
Re wraping of roof, A,B,C pillars in my BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...8-re-wraping-roof-b-c-pillars-my-bmw-e90.html
Air-con compressor - replace - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...011/81066-air-con-compressor-replace-e90.html
Spacers with extended studs (black color) – BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...acers-extended-studs-black-color-bmw-e90.html
VTTR Big Brake Kits - front & rear - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...65776-vttr-big-brake-kits-front-rear-e90.html
silver color dry carbon stickers on my gear shift panel - BMW E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...bon-stickers-my-gear-shift-panel-bmw-e90.html
MoMo Boss Kit, NRG slim quick release and NRG Suede steering - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...lim-quick-release-nrg-suede-steering-e90.html
customised BMW steering wheel logo - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...9-customised-bmw-steering-wheel-logo-e90.html
Pivot 3 Drive - e-throttle controller - on E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...-pivot-3-drive-e-throttle-controller-e90.html
mini woofer in cabin - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-series-e90-e92-e93-m3-2006-2011/65775-mini-woofer-cabin-e90.html
HKS open pod on E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-series-e90-e92-e93-m3-2006-2011/65384-hks-open-pod-e90.html
HID conversation on my fog lights - E90
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...65386-hid-conversation-my-fog-lights-e90.html
Re-Location of the IU under the sun visor
Re-Location of the IU under the sun visor
my BMW as a movie car?????????
my BMW as a movie car?????????
Ignition coil - replacement - E90
Ignition coil - replacement - E90