18" rim

[wt_know]

hi guy,

i have booked a e90 320 (FL). the stock wheel is 16"

any recommendation for 18" rim that flush with the fender nicely ?

not too expensive. i'm thinking to buy bmw stock/oem 18" rim that comes with the e90/92/e60 - fit ?

as a start, i'm not planning to lower the ride. i'm pretty okay with a 2.5/3 finger front and 2 finger rear as i travel to msia frequently.

thanks

 

[dsdfan]

Re: 18" rim

It seems FL E90 has a wider rear axle than original E90.

Anyone knows how much wider? Promo material says "up to 24mm" depending on model.

Therefore rims which flushed perfectly with original E90 fender without rolling (eg. Volks progressive ME, rear 9.5J offset 30) may protrude too much with FL E90.

Even with wider FL axle, I think OEM 18" BMW rims like the 162 (Rear 8.5J offset 37) might still look recessed.

 

[kenntona]

Re: 18" rim

any recommendation for 18" rim that flush with the fender nicely ?

Fender flushing is easy. Many off-the-rack brands cater to BMW without using spaces. JDM brands like Neez, Volks or Advan have perfect offset for your 3er. Or you can choose to customise.

not too expensive. i'm thinking to buy bmw stock/oem 18" rim that comes with the e90/92/e60 - fit ?

It seems FL E90 has a wider rear wheelbase than original E90.

Therefore rims which flushed perfectly with original E90 fender without rolling (eg. Volks progressive ME, rear 9.5J offset 30) may protrude too much with FL E90.

Even with wider FL wheelbase, I think OEM 18" BMW rims like the 162 (Rear 8.5J offset 37) might still look recessed.

Yes, both e90 models will not share the same offset anymore. PFL e90 shares the same offset as e92/e93.

 

[wt_know]

Re: 18" rim

okie. will go shopping for rim. see see look look.

any shop to recommend that got a good selection of bmw oem or aftermarket rim that suit the 3er ?

aint going for the very light or branded rim. so, budget < $5K include tyres ai sai bor ? i guess the stock 16" rim+tyre brand new will be traded in at shitty price

thanks !!

 

[dsdfan]

Re: 18" rim

I find Hurry Tyre and Leong Seng offer good service and range. If they don't have your choice of rim on display, they have catalogues that list the sizes and offsets.

They will offer a very competitve trade-in value for your original rims and tyres if you surrender them right after collecting your car. Do order your new rims in advance so you can swop your original tyres for them right after collecting your car.

5K seems more than adequate, especially if you choose less costly tyres. I usually fit modest tyres on a new car because one can't drive too adventurously for the first several thousand KM. The Federal 595's cost less than 1K per set.

See if you enjoy the "sprung-up" look of the E90 on 18" wheels. I had this for a couple of months, and found myself reluctantly compelled to lower after that.

If I were 100% determined not to lower suspension, I would personally keep to 17" wheels. Apart from looking less awkward underneath a wider wheel gap, 17" tyres are more cushiony than 18" ones, so they seem better matched to the compliant stock suspension in providing a more comfortable ride.

All things being equal, smaller rims also means better fuel consumption and responsiveness and acceleration.

 

[wt_know]

Re: 18" rim

i have good experience with leong seng too. will definitely drop by to check it out.

agree with you about using 17" if i determine not to lower the suspension. beside, it helps me to save $$. my ride is only a 320, a 18" rim will definitely drag the car. actually, my experience tell me that if the offset is smaller than the stock one, it may flush with the fender. for example, for my previous ride the stock offset was +60 then i got new rim offset was +50, it push the rim out a bit

by the way, is it a MUST for the rear to have a wider tyre ? any recomendation for 17" setup ? front = 225/40/R17, rear = 235/35/R17 ?

If I were 100% determined not to lower suspension, I would personally keep to 17" wheels. Apart from looking less awkward underneath a wider wheel gap, 17" tyres are more cushiony than 18" ones, so they seem better matched to the compliant stock suspension in providing a more comfortable ride.

 

[BMWSILVER]

Re: 18" rim

Firstly ! Congrat to your new ride

May be you can consider those 335i rims (18"). Nice and easy to clean.
Many owner upgrade to 19" and 20".

Can buy from them at reasonable price

Cheers !

 

[wt_know]

Re: 18" rim

paging for 18" stock/oem owner. if you wish to sell your rim, please post here or PM me.

thanks !

Firstly ! Congrat to your new ride

May be you can consider those 335i rims (18"). Nice and easy to clean.
Many owner upgrade to 19" and 20".

Can buy from them at reasonable price

Cheers !

 

[dsdfan]

Re: 18" rim

paging for 18" stock/oem owner. if you wish to sell your rim, please post here or PM me.

thanks !

You could also check with Hurry or Leong Seng. They have many popular models of BMW stock rims in brand new condition (eg. 162, 158 etc.) traded in by customers who upgraded. The advantage of stock rims is they don't need a hubcentric ring.

Pricing is less than half of PML's list price.

actually, my experience tell me that if the offset is smaller than the stock one, it may flush with the fender. for example, for my previous ride the stock offset was +60 then i got new rim offset was +50, it push the rim out a bit

That's how it works: reducing offset will cause the rim to protrude outwards. An offset that is lower by 10 means the wheel juts out 10 mm further.

Rim width is also a factor in how far the wheel protrudes. Given the same offset, an 9.5J rim will protude outwards half an inch further than a 8.5J rim.

If your FL E90 rear axle is widened by 24mm compared to the original E90, any given wheel will protrude out further by 12mm on each side of the FL E90, compared to installing that wheel on a PFL E90.

Congrats on being one of the first on the roads with a FL E90. Only spotted one so far, very striking!

 

[BMWSILVER]

Re: 18" rim

Give you an example for such a deal

http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bazaar.../28268-brand-new-oem-335-tires-rims-sale.html

I love these rims too.

Good luck

 

[14m3]

Re: 18" rim

How about some 19 CSL wheels?
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bazaar...31-wts-e90-demob-parts-accessories-4sale.html

 

[jinooi]

Re: 18" rim

go get the BBS LM wheels! damn rare and damn chio...

 

[dsdfan]

Re: 18" rim

by the way, is it a MUST for the rear to have a wider tyre ? any recomendation for 17" setup ? front = 225/40/R17, rear = 235/35/R17 ?

Certainly, a square or non staggered setup, like 225/20/R17 on 17 x 8J wheels all around, is one of the stock factory options.

This could be considered the "Comfort & Fuel Efficiency" setup because it gives you superior ride comfort and lower fuel consumption compared to 18 or 19 inch wheels.

Having a wider tyre in the rear increases fuel consumption.

18 or 19 inch wheels might compel many drivers to go for stiffer shocks and lower springs, which will further reduce comfort .

In particular, the stock 158 17" rims are amazingly lightweight. If comfort and fuel efficiency are a main priority, a non-staggered 17 x8J setup would be ideal. And it looks more sporty than the puny and lame stock 16 x 7J wheels, especially with your FL E90's widened rear axle

 

[wt_know]

Re: 18" rim

thanks dsdfan

my gut feel goes with 225/45/R17 all round for comfort and look
the problem is to find a stock/oem traded rim within budget that fit the new FL E90 widened rear axle
hope the end result turns out good
keep all your suggestion and tip coming ..... thanks !!!

 

[BMWSILVER]

Re: 18" rim

You may consider these 17"

http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bazaar-bmw-parts-accessories/29969-wts-bmw-17-rims-re050a-runflats.html

Cheers

 

[wt_know]

Re: 18" rim

thanks for the link. will definitely consider this as it most probably meet my "small" budget. need to find out whether it can be fitted on the FL E90. as mentioned my objective is to narrow the fender gap and have the rim&tyre flush nicely with the fender. 2 to 2.5 fingers gap is accetaple for me

by the way, here are the data that i got for 320/323/325 "factory" setup

320 – 17x8, 225/45/R17 (all round)
320 (sport) & 323 – 17x8, 225/45/R17 (front) & 17x8.5, 255/40/R17 (rear)
325 – 18x8, 225/40/R18 (front) & 18x8.5, 255/35/R18 (rear)

You may consider these 17"

http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bazaar-bmw-parts-accessories/29969-wts-bmw-17-rims-re050a-runflats.html

Cheers

 

[kenntona]

Re: 18" rim

as mentioned my objective is to narrow the fender gap and have the rim&tyre flush nicely with the fender.

Stock/OEM offsets are always conservative - you will NEVER be fender flushed, unless you use spacers.

 

[dsdfan]

Re: 18" rim

Stock/OEM offsets are always conservative - you will NEVER be fender flushed, unless you use spacers.

I found this to be true, unfortunately. Stock rims have a high offset, so they tend to look recessed. This is one of the "flaws" they partially rectified in the facelift E90. I hope they fully correct it in the next 3 series.

Stock 17 x 8J rims (+34 offset) will look less recessed on your widened FL axle, but will might be about 20 mm short of being flush with the fender. As Kentonna mentioned, some use spacers to extend the rim outwards. I personally feel uncomfortable about putting anything between the axle and the wheel.

The 17 x 8J stock rims will protrude outwards by half an inch more compared to the 16 x 7J's wheels that come with the 320, so 17" wheels won't look so badly recessed. Observe E90's on the road which have 17" stock wheels and you might find it OK. Hurry had a brand new set of 17 x 8J stock 158 rims a couple of months ago, might still be there.

I feel there is no middle ground. One must make a clear choice when choosing a wheel and suspension option. One either commits to the "comfort and fuel efficiency" philosophy and stick with the cushiony stock suspension plus 17" or 16" wheels, OR pursue the sporty approach which means committing to lowered springs, firmer shocks and 18" or larger wheels. If one blends sports with comfort, the results tend to look and feel incongruous.

If it is 100% important for the wheel to be flush HORIZONTALLY with the fender, chances are you will eventually want it to be flush VERTICALLY, ie have a narrower vertical wheel gap. Then, you might prefer sports approach: get a 18 or 19" rim with positive offset of between 32 to 35, or order DPE rims custom-made to fit the FL E90 perfectly. A coilover could give a moderate drop of 30 cm to match the big rims. The ride will not be as smooth and serene as a stock car, but the drive will be more exciting, providing your passengers don't complain.

 

[wt_know]

Re: 18" rim

stock/oem setup is 17x8, +34, 225/45/R17 (front) and 17x8.5, +37, 255/40/R17 (rear)

i'm thinking to have an easy setup of 17x8.5, +34, 225/45/R17 all round -> not sure this will work and how is the end result.

I found this to be true, unfortunately. Stock rims have a high offset, so they tend to look recessed. This is one of the "flaws" they partially rectified in the facelift E90. I hope they fully correct it in the next 3 series.

Stock 17 x 8J rims (+34 offset) will look less recessed on your widened FL axle, but will might be about 20 mm short of being flush with the fender. As Kentonna mentioned, some use spacers to extend the rim outwards. I personally feel uncomfortable about compromising the axle/rim link.

The 17 x 8J stock rims will protrude outwards by half an inch more compared to the 16 x 7J's wheels that come with the 320, so 17" wheels won't look so badly recessed. Observe E90's on the road which have 17" stock wheels and you might find it OK. Hurry had a brand new set of 17 x 8J stock 158 rims a couple of months ago, might still be there.

I feel there is no middle ground. One must make a clear choice when choosing a wheel and suspension option. One either commits to the "comfort and fuel efficiency" philosophy and stick with the cushiony stock suspension plus 17" or 16" wheels, OR pursue the sporty approach which means committing to lowered springs, firmer shocks and 18" or larger wheels. If one blends sports with comfort, the results tend to look and feel incongruous.

 

[dsdfan]

Re: 18" rim

i'm thinking to have an easy setup of 17x8.5, +34, 225/45/R17 all round -> not sure this will work and how is the end result.

Stock 17x8.5 rims have a larger offset of +37. This will give you only 3 mm more protrusion than 17x8 + 34 - not too noticeable.

You will gain some additional weight with 8.5J rims compared to 8J, which adds to rotational mass: Slight effect on fuel consumption and responsiveness.

Either way, this is within stock non-staggered parameters for the car. Will provide a smooth and firm ride with good fuel economy.

Note that some stock 17" rims are heavier than others. Style 158 is one of the lightest, if you don't mind 17x8J