Anyone know who is going to own this!!!

[centurion]

yes the manifold made of gold because it conducts heat away fastest:


this car is same weight as the 911 about 1.3 tons.

The reason for the sucky 0-60 is because this car can't put the power down properly since it's RWD only and has too powerful torque even at low rpm. However, once past 3rd gear it kills everything else.

[///M3]

give me a lambo..hehe

[delrosa81]

Originally Posted by centurion

yes the manifold made of gold because it conducts heat away fastest:


this car is same weight as the 911 about 1.3 tons.

The reason for the sucky 0-60 is because this car can't put the power down properly since it's RWD only and has too powerful torque even at low rpm. However, once past 3rd gear it kills everything else.

Oooh I see, sometimes I think being too powerful is not a good thing, there is a limit to the law of physics I guess, not enuf traction also cant translate it into useful power also. But is it possible to have some sort of high tech traction control to let it have an optimum traction for the century dash?? hmmm I guess should not be a prob right

[Crufty Dusty]

Originally Posted by delrosa81

Oooh I see, sometimes I think being too powerful is not a good thing, there is a limit to the law of physics I guess, not enuf traction also cant translate it into useful power also. But is it possible to have some sort of high tech traction control to let it have an optimum traction for the century dash?? hmmm I guess should not be a prob right

Absolutely... a simple traction control system would merely involve driven wheel speed sensors and proper programming of the ECU, either retarding ignition/cutting fuel/controlling boost. So the excuse that "car is too powerful to launch properly" doesn't hold any water. Especially on a car with such expensive intake manifold.

[phil]

maybe the gear ratio is set uo for speed, not take off

[centurion]

Originally Posted by Crufty Dusty

Absolutely... a simple traction control system would merely involve driven wheel speed sensors and proper programming of the ECU, either retarding ignition/cutting fuel/controlling boost. So the excuse that "car is too powerful to launch properly" doesn't hold any water. Especially on a car with such expensive intake manifold.

I was just repeating from the Evo mag, crufty

[Crufty Dusty]

Originally Posted by centurion

I was just repeating from the Evo mag, crufty

Yes I realize that but the duty of a good journalist is to question the official PR spiel. That's what separates a good magazine (content) and horseshit ricer magazines.

The reason for the sucky 0-60 is because this car can't put the power down properly since it's RWD only and has too powerful torque even at low rpm. However, once past 3rd gear it kills everything else.

See... it only has a 4 liter engine with 711 lb-ft of peak torque. That is enough to "kill everything else"? I think the frog needs to come out of the well once in a while.

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And yes, I think these cars have traction control.

There will always be a faster car/driver.

[centurion]

crufty, the figures were obtained by the journalist and it was him who could not get traction after several tries. It was not a reason given by 9FF. I can't remember any talk about traction control in this 9FF, so I guess the car just didn't have TC.

As for the `kill everything else' it's referring to `production' vehicle, arguably this is a production vehicle, not a one-off. It's mission is to achieve top speed greater than the Veyron, and in that it seems to fulfil the mission though not with so much ease of use. Yes I'm aware of top fuel stuff etc. which perform incredibly, but those are hardly production vehicles.

I'm sorry for my lack of ability to fill in the entire context of the article, I read it and I wrote it here as I remember it, but omitted to transfer the entire context, which was a lot of pages.

Originally Posted by Crufty Dusty

Yes I realize that but the duty of a good journalist is to question the official PR spiel. That's what separates a good magazine (content) and horseshit ricer magazines.


See... it only has a 4 liter engine with 711 lb-ft of peak torque. That is enough to "kill everything else"? I think the frog needs to come out of the well once in a while.

Dyno Dynamics - News
Dyno Dynamics - News

And yes, I think these cars have traction control.

There will always be a faster car/driver.

[Crufty Dusty]

Originally Posted by centurion

crufty, the figures were obtained by the journalist and it was him who could not get traction after several tries. It was not a reason given by 9FF. I can't remember any talk about traction control in this 9FF, so I guess the car just didn't have TC.

As for the `kill everything else' it's referring to `production' vehicle, arguably this is a production vehicle, not a one-off. It's mission is to achieve top speed greater than the Veyron, and in that it seems to fulfil the mission though not with so much ease of use. Yes I'm aware of top fuel stuff etc. which perform incredibly, but those are hardly production vehicles.

I'm sorry for my lack of ability to fill in the entire context of the article, I read it and I wrote it here as I remember it, but omitted to transfer the entire context, which was a lot of pages.

So what differentiates a "production vehicle" from a one-off? What is the criteria for judgement?

Chasing a top speed target or high HP numbers is one thing, but claiming to "not have traction" and "killing everything else" is quite another. To me, it is an incongruence that beggars belief. On the one hand it has an expensive intake manifold yet the car does not have the most basic of essentials which allows it to get to the top speed in the first place. By that time the cheaper cars with proper mods and more power would've left it in the dust a long time ago.

[centurion]

Originally Posted by Crufty Dusty

So what differentiates a "production vehicle" from a one-off? What is the criteria for judgement?

Chasing a top speed target or high HP numbers is one thing, but claiming to "not have traction" and "killing everything else" is quite another. To me, it is an incongruence that beggars belief. On the one hand it has an expensive intake manifold yet the car does not have the most basic of essentials which allows it to get to the top speed in the first place. By that time the cheaper cars with proper mods and more power would've left it in the dust a long time ago.

Production Vehicles vs one-off = nice to talk about but I have a fever now waiting for some guy to come pick something up then will go home.
One-Off, Batch, Mass & Continuous - Are all Scales of Production. Help for students of Design & Technology. Project, Coursework and Homework help. Batch prroduction, mass production and continuous as well as one-off production all have their place. is a nice discussion, where one-off means all products are distinctive and unique, wheras production is not.

One need not have starting traction to make a car optimized completely for high speed runs. At Nardo for example, there is ample space, so the gearing can be utterly spaced out for top speed optimization. It is not within my knowledge that many other production cars can now achieve 255mph even with modifications.