Medeka Millenium Race 2007 Tickets

[TripleM]

Originally Posted by caySman

you mean the 997RSR which ... ahem. ... had to suck teutonic cock to buy? The only one in Asia ?

Probably...
It's a 400k USD car
Engine needs rebuilding after 30 hours of race.

[Shaun]

There are 2 aspects to winning in these kind of race conditions. You may have the fastest car and a piss poor pit team and a dickhead strategy co-ordinator, u lose. I have seen lotus R1 team and i was duly impressed with the way the pit team functioned at every pit. Looking down the line, you really can see the difference as far as organization, safety and diagnostic checks are concerned. What do you think makes Ferrari so succesful even without Michael Schumacher ? It was a bonus with him but ppl were getting bored of it. Its how the whole team works as a whole with loads of experience under their belt. Even a wrong decision to make a pit stop would cost ya. But i gotta admit the porsche that came in 2nd or 3rd last year sounded real sick. I loved the sound of that engine. The Lemans sound. The kinda sound that wud lift a skirt off a girl if she were to be blown past by this car. Truly an amazing and unforgettable soundtrack.

Yes, the expertise I mentioned includes management, strategy, etc. I may talk like a tech-head but it is far from all I focus on. I see successes and failures in management and strategy every week, across large and highly competitive fields, where no team competes without multi-millions spent per car per year - many in the 8 digit per car per year range..which makes that about halfway to 9 digits for a 4 car 4 driver team.

The biggest difference between the first and the last place finishers is not tech, but structure, standards, management and money that it takes to have these three things really strong. The money spent on these three things eclipses what is spent on base tech, though there is also a difference in tech. Base tech in my definition is tech available to those with less than a couple hundred million dollars a year to burn... and that is all of motorsport except F1. So it's never just about the car or the setup, but more about what supports that tip of the spear.

Racing, beyong the base tech level which most engineers and many non-engineers possess, is truly 90% structure, management, money. The last 10% is advanced tech and there only 2 other professional auto racing arenas worldwide that has some teams running budgets large enough to support R&D at that level. And those you can count with your fingers. It is useless to have any advanced tech if the base tech and structure/management is not present. Latter being the much more challenging area to develop. Attempt at advanced tech without absolutely huge budgets and the best minds, is extremely inefficient and lack of real baselines leads to lack of real new knowledge takeaway. Same goes for even base tech without the basest of budgets.

In road racing, the winners are those who have..

- The best engineers and mechanics to come up with and apply the best chassis and suspension setup for the course in those conditions
- The best driver
- Made use of all available test and practice time
- Found ways to even test illegally (if sanctioning body limited, which is almost always the case)
- Made the most efficient use of all test time
- The money to buy all the right people and equipment
- The vision and focus to create and manage the most efficient structure that fully utilizes and integrates all the people and technology that the money is spent on.

Last two are critical since everything before them follows as a result.

Doing it all right keeps confidence between owners, managers, mechanics, drivers, engineers, high, and this synergy is the other major factor in the car being consistently quick round the track. The confidence that goes both ways between each group listed here, can be lost in literally 1 second, and may take months to recover, which makes structure and standards even more critical to ensure that the loss or lack of continual growth in that area doesn't occur.

If you like that noise you should go to the 24 hours of Le Mans sometime in your life, or at least stop by an ALMS race in the US if convenient. The range of engine configurations and engine speeds, ignition control strategies for shift cuts, soft/hard rev limiters, pit lane cruise (and how hard some of them come off it) as well as body shapes and how and how much they displace the air just creates an indescribable symphony. Also cool are the closing rates between classes and how clean and close they race even then. I have some videos I should upload. The visual is pretty good but audio is done no justice unless I buy a really good mic or something.

[satinGHOST|r!der]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Yes, the expertise I mentioned includes management, strategy, etc. I may talk like a tech-head but it is far from all I focus on. I see successes and failures in management and strategy every week, across large and highly competitive fields, where no team competes without multi-millions spent per car per year - many in the 8 digit per car per year range..which makes that about halfway to 9 digits for a 4 car 4 driver team.

The biggest difference between the first and the last place finishers is not tech, but structure, standards, management and money that it takes to have these three things really strong. The money spent on these three things eclipses what is spent on base tech. Base tech in my definition is tech not available to those with anything less than a couple hundred million dollars a year to burn... and that is all of motorsport except F1. So it's never just about the car or the setup, but more about what supports that tip of the spear.

Racing, beyong the base tech level which any engineer and many non-engineers possess, is truly 90% structure, management, money. The last 10% is advanced tech and there only 2 other professional auto racing arenas worldwide that has some teams running budgets large enough to support R&D at that level. And those you can count with your fingers. It is useless to have any advanced tech if the base tech and structure/management is not present. Latter being the much more challenging area to develop.

In road racing, the winners are those who have..

- The best engineers and mechanics to come up with and apply the best chassis and suspension setup for the course in those conditions
- The best driver
- Made use of all available test and practice time
- Found ways to even test illegally (if sanctioning body limited, which is almost always the case)
- Made the most efficient use of all test time
- The money to buy all the right people and equipment
- The vision and focus to create and manage the most efficient structure that fully utilizes and integrates all the people and technology that the money is spent on.

Last two are critical since everything before them follows as a result.

Doing it all right keeps confidence between owners, managers, mechanics, drivers, engineers, high, and this synergy is the other major factor in the car being consistently quick round the track. The confidence that goes both ways between each group listed here is so easy to lose, and difficult to build which makes the structure and standards even more critical.

If you like that noise you should go to the 24 hours of Le Mans sometime in your life, or at least stop by an ALMS race in the US if convenient. The range of engine configurations and engine speeds, ignition control strategies for shift cuts, soft/hard rev limiters, pit lane cruise (and how hard some of them come off it) as well as body shapes and how and how much they displace the air just creates an indescribable symphony. I have some videos I should upload. The visual is pretty good but audio is done no justice unless I buy a really good mic or something.

Wow..thats some real time experience rite smack there. I dont wanna see videos and audio. Hell even my video i recorded on the porsche didnt sound the same. The shrilling sound of the ground vibrating and the car screaming past your ears - Beyond words and all forms of technical literature. Nothing beats being out there. Gotta come some time soon to see the ALMS race in U.S. Only thing is that the customs would probably be cross checking my affiliations with Osama Bin Laden.

[gadaffi]

see u there bro, i'm gonna b there too...
was there last sat, theres gonna b a good race between lotus and the gt3
good luck racebred, hehehehe

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by elmariachi

Wow..thats some real time experience rite smack there. I dont wanna see videos and audio. Hell even my video i recorded on the porsche didnt sound the same. The shrilling sound of the ground vibrating and the car screaming past your ears - Beyond words and all forms of technical literature. Nothing beats being out there. Gotta come some time soon to see the ALMS race in U.S. Only thing is that the customs would probably be cross checking my affiliations with Osama Bin Laden.

Made the last post in the early morning hours over here so there were a couple critical clarifications required which I just made. If you could change the quoted portion of your last post to match I would appreciate it.

I also would like to add that what I meant in original post was that as long as the other factors were assumed equal or roughly close, that the R1 design, team budget, and everything that probably would follow from it...including the motorsport connections that the Tunku obviously has as can be seen by his partners and co-drivers in past years and currently (esp Hashimoto). The fact that the team is, as you mention, very well managed only strengthens their already good chance that they will win. The only thing that can really stop that is a crash, or a mechanical.. latter of which can be virtually eliminated by quality components on a proper component lifing schedule (which you know they have), and proper processes (you know people with these skills can be hired for enough money, especially when your car is partly factory supported by a company that has a pure sport heritage)

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Good luck RB! Kick some ass!

[///M3]

yea good luck racebred!

damn shaun can really post..lol

[Shaun]

Back from another 4 day racing circus, but can't sleep yet because I don't know what's up with MME. Why isn't the SIC site updated? How did it all go in qual and the actual race? Who stood , who fell? Syntium win? Not just about RSR I guess. I forgot about that team.. Petronas motorsport and great drivers... bettering R1 IMO, esp if they somehow get their car down to the class O base weight like the R1 can, which I don't see happening without a lot of time and money... which they do have. Seems like an awful lot of trouble for a single race in SEA with little prize money, must be marketing or something. When's BMWsg going to run a car?

If the Z4 didn't match weight with R1, then the race between the two would have been very close assuming no mechanicals, crashes, and little rain. If there was lots of rain.. money on Z4 because of driver experience.

[Shaun]

Also, anyone with any info on Billy Ng.. driver for R1? I don't remember the name from any sort of SG motorsport or usual track activity up north. What is his racing background?

[hackzi]

Malaysian National News Agency :: BERNAMA

Hong Leong-Kencana Win Merdeka Endurance In Sensational Style

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 25 (Bernama) -- In a sensational end to the 2007 Petronas Primax 3 Merdeka Millennium Endurance race (MME), Team Hong Leong-Kencana Racing snatched victory from the Petronas Syntium Team after the favourites retired from the race at the Sepang Circuit tonight with less than 55 minutes to go and 13 laps ahead.

Leading the race from the second hour and cruising to what looked like a sure victory, the engine of the team's powerful BMW Z4M Coupe simply stalled at the back straight with driver Fariqe Hairuman leaping out of the car hopping mad in anger and frustration.

That opened the door for Hong Leong-Kencana Racing - with drivers Mokhzani Mahathir, Sven Herberger and LeMans driver Lars Erik Nielsen, taking the checkered flag, after completing 288 laps in the 12-hour race, a record in the eight-year history of the series.

The previous record was 276 laps achieved in 2005 by Amprex Proton Motorsports.

Honda Malaysia Racing Team took second and third spot with the partnership of Eddie Lew, Hiroki Katoh and Shinya Hosokawa taking second overall and first among Class A racers with 282 laps.

Wonderkid Jazeman Jaafar's Team Proton R3 Motorsports had a short outing of only 80 laps in just over three hours after their Lotus Exige 300RR machine - the car that won the race in 2005 and 2006 - encountered electrical problems and retired.

Following are the Top 10 Finishers (Number of laps covered after 12 hours):

1. Mokhzani Mahathir, Sven Herberger, Lars Erik Nielsen) (Porsche 911 GT3 RSR) 288 laps

2. Hiroki Katoh, Shinya Hosokawa, Eddie Lew (Honda Civic Type R) 282 laps

3. Rueben Wong, Fahrizal Hassan, Aaron Lim (Honda Civic Type R) 282 laps

4. Marcus Goh, Yasuhiro Kuhara, Ken Yap (Honda Integra DC5) 271 laps

5. Unemoto Junichi, Kusumoto Yoshiharu, Nagano Kenya (Honda S2000) 271 laps

6. Shaun Juniper, Paul Kelly, Craig Bird (Porsche 911 GT3 RSR) 270 laps

7. Helmi Ilyas, Adam Ilyas, Hisham Jahudi (Lotus Exige 240) 269 laps

8. Siu Tit Lung, Siu Yuk Lung, Keitasawa (Porsche 911) 268 laps

9. Erwin Azizi, Adam Azizi, Johnson Chen (Honda DC5) 268 laps

10. Keifli Othman, Peter Leemhuis, Tony Ford (Honda Integra DC5) 267 laps



The winners according to class;

Class O (Open class) Mokhzani Mahathir, Sven Herberger, Lars Erik Nielsen (Porsche 911 GT3 RSR) 288 laps,

Class A (production cars above 1900cc) Hiroki Katoh, Shinya Hosokawa, Eddie Lew (Honda Civic Type R) 283 laps,

Class B (production cars between 1601cc and 1900cc) Wong Yew Choong, Tek Kean Kang, Soh Kee Koon (Honda Integra DC5) 256 laps,

Class C (production cars below 1600cc) Kenny Lee, Sherwood, Chris o'Shannessy) (Toyota AE101) 259 laps

-- BERNAMA

[Shaun]

Hey thanks Lionel.

And the class-interloping continues! IMO the number one reason it should not go 24. Need to have sufficient mass in each class finishing, and up to speed first.

Surprising results this year. The unpredictability highlights the difficulty in achieving even the basics in terms of a car that finishes. I think part of the foreign team problems is that logistics and not necessarily having all the guys you're used to working with, around the effort.

Delay in publishing official results might be due to the protest and appeals process. I think some teams (even on the list above) might have been DQed or penalized in other ways.