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    X3 Audio Set up

    Hi Guys,

    need to check something really quick.

    Took over an X3 from a friend recently.

    Not particularly happy or unhappy with the audio system. But was thinking of enhancing it with some new speakers and perhaps tweeters...

    1) how many speakers are there in the X3? and what sizes?

    2) What can i change to? keeping it budget though... $500 or $600 max...

    Sorry i am cheapo..

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    Re: X3 Audio Set up

    For 500 bucks, just look at adding an active sub to your system. IMO that would make the biggest difference. Besides, you dont have much to play with at that kinda budget

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    Re: X3 Audio Set up

    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    For 500 bucks, just look at adding an active sub to your system. IMO that would make the biggest difference. Besides, you dont have much to play with at that kinda budget
    I am small time for car system.. simply because i never thot cars interior is the best setup for audio. Hence, I can't bear to part with big money for car set up, honestly...

    And i've learnt from past experience with home set up that, money is almost definitely most well spent in Speakers... so i am applying that to cars as well. Change the speakers and slap on the tweeter with a simple cross over, i should get a lot better sound than what it is currently churning out.

    I am not looking for fantastic stuff... i think there are 6 speakers in the car, since the BMW business module is 6 X 25 Watt.

    Any good spreakers to recommend? the size looks like 4 inch...

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    Re: X3 Audio Set up

    The problem with getting new speakers is that you'll probably need a new amp to power them as well. The stock amp in the car will most likely be unable to efficiently power the new speakers in the car.

    Sure you can still slap on a new pair of speakers and you'll hear a marginal improvement but dont expect significant improvements in SQ. The reason why i mentioned the sub is cos it'll allow u to play the full range of frequency in the car which is probably lacking at this point, specifically in the lower frequency. So you'll end up with a much 'fuller' sound within the car.

    Again, all this based on the budget that you're putting forth as well. If you're willing to increase your budget to say a grand, then probably a better alternative would be to invest in an amp and a decent pair of component speakers and you should be good to go.

    And perhaps you may wanna explore looking into second hand stuff as well, that might be another cheaper alternative that might allow you to stick within your budget. Try checking out a local audio forum called sgsoundsystem for decent deals on second hand stuff. Think you can google them to get the URL.

    Good luck on this.

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    Re: X3 Audio Set up

    one thing is the money... 1 k is not that much..

    But i would hate to have an extra amp in the boot, as i use the boot space quite often..
    i can't have it under the seat as well.

    Visually as well as the lack of an ideal place to install is more the reason why i don't want the upgrade.

    And since i don't want to install the amp, there is a ceiling to how much improvement i can achieve.

    I might as well lower my budget... $500 shoudl be able to get me some component speakers? I need 4 pairs, and i believe there's 2 woofer under the seats, Those may or may not need to be replace.

    What do you think?

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    Re: X3 Audio Set up

    If the budget really isn't the main concern, and it's aesthetics and space that concerns you, then might i suggest you invest in a decent compact amp. I personally use a JL Audio HD600/4 series amp and gotta say, i'm lovin it . Compact and produces really clean amplification. Only problem is you gotta get them shipped from the US.

    Alternatively, Alpine makes a range of PDX amps that are of equal size. Getting a 4 channel amp should serve your purpose fine and i'm sure if you work with the installers, they'll be able to find a suitable spot to locate the amp.

    As for the speakers, if the X3 setup is anything like the 3 series, then you probably have a 6.5 under seat woofer, 4inch mids and tweeters, which means you'll just need to get a 3 way component setup as a replacement. Again, i'm still doubtful that the stock amp is going to efficiently power these speakers but i'm no expert

    Here's a shot of my old install in the E46. As you can see, i didn't take up too much room in the trunk. The sub box was only a little over 6 inches thick and the amp sat nicely at the side of the trunk.
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    Re: X3 Audio Set up

    Quote Originally Posted by henry2703 View Post
    one thing is the money... 1 k is not that much..

    But i would hate to have an extra amp in the boot, as i use the boot space quite often..
    i can't have it under the seat as well.

    Visually as well as the lack of an ideal place to install is more the reason why i don't want the upgrade.

    And since i don't want to install the amp, there is a ceiling to how much improvement i can achieve.

    I might as well lower my budget... $500 shoudl be able to get me some component speakers? I need 4 pairs, and i believe there's 2 woofer under the seats, Those may or may not need to be replace.

    What do you think?

    if you are not really into high-end car audio, and just would like "some" improvements with aftermarket 2-way component speakers, i would recommend that you complement them speakers with "affordable" class d car audio amplifiers; big on clean rms power, small in size & efficient; e.g. pioneer's gm-d9500f, or rockford fosgate's r-300 4-channel, both class d car audio amps, or similar class d amps from other brands.

    i am not in the car audio industry, and do not own any of the said products above. just sharing.

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    Re: X3 Audio Set up

    Quote Originally Posted by southpaw23 View Post
    If the budget really isn't the main concern, and it's aesthetics and space that concerns you, then might i suggest you invest in a decent compact amp. I personally use a JL Audio HD600/4 series amp and gotta say, i'm lovin it . Compact and produces really clean amplification. Only problem is you gotta get them shipped from the US.

    Alternatively, Alpine makes a range of PDX amps that are of equal size. Getting a 4 channel amp should serve your purpose fine and i'm sure if you work with the installers, they'll be able to find a suitable spot to locate the amp.

    As for the speakers, if the X3 setup is anything like the 3 series, then you probably have a 6.5 under seat woofer, 4inch mids and tweeters, which means you'll just need to get a 3 way component setup as a replacement. Again, i'm still doubtful that the stock amp is going to efficiently power these speakers but i'm no expert

    Here's a shot of my old install in the E46. As you can see, i didn't take up too much room in the trunk. The sub box was only a little over 6 inches thick and the amp sat nicely at the side of the trunk.

    yup, the alpine pdx line of class d amps are stackable, like lego blocks.

    for jl audio, try autotrend enterprise pte ltd, blk1002 toa payoh industrial park, s319074. not sure if this shop is an authorized jl audio dealer, but i see lots of products from this brand inside this shop. jl audio is really good stuff, just that its amplifier's output impedance is a bit unique, and not the industry norm, but it matches the jl audio speakers' impedance.

    i know about the above shop 'cos i usually go kaypoh in the shop when my wife shops at the toyogo factory outlet nearby.

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    Re: X3 Audio Set up

    Thanks guys for all your comments... and the Picture is certainly very helpful.

    I am still not sure about the boot space for the X3. For E90, its easy, can chuck it in the spare wheel well, but that same well is filled up in the X3. i don't quite like the idea of the amp hanging on the side. Have to see it in person.

    Thanks for the recommendation on the shops as well.

    Question:
    1) Do you guys go to Pin Liang? is it any good?
    2) if i still decide to just change the 4' speakers on the door to component speakers and swap oout the 6.5' subwoofer, any particular recommendation? are the focal stuff good? or any i better off with the pioneer stuff?

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    Re: X3 Audio Set up

    Quote Originally Posted by henry2703 View Post
    Thanks guys for all your comments... and the Picture is certainly very helpful.

    I am still not sure about the boot space for the X3. For E90, its easy, can chuck it in the spare wheel well, but that same well is filled up in the X3. i don't quite like the idea of the amp hanging on the side. Have to see it in person.

    Thanks for the recommendation on the shops as well.

    Question:
    1) Do you guys go to Pin Liang? is it any good?
    2) if i still decide to just change the 4' speakers on the door to component speakers and swap oout the 6.5' subwoofer, any particular recommendation? are the focal stuff good? or any i better off with the pioneer stuff?

    just to share: try http://www.phpbbserver.com/sgcaraudio/
    look for "unc bob" (nick: BobcatSysOp), one of the senior moderators. friendly bunch of icers. there's are two meet ups a week for this ice forum where any newbie can audit various ice set ups, from the basic "amp & speaker" upgrade to the "money no object" set ups.



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